I know joaquin is all for animal rights. He hates animal cruelty, and I'm sure he hates the people responsible for slaughtering animals for a living.
Yet I just saw pictures of him during the whole johnny cash/walk the line promotion time, where he was acting all buddy buddy with prisoners. He can shake hands, perform for, chat with, and take pictures with men who have raped, molested, killed ...
Unless you have prison records, you don't know what crimes the prisoners were convicted of. You're automatically assuming the worst. It would be too easy to launch into a discussion about the socioeconomic and emotional backgrounds of prisoners and why some people do bad things (but aren't necessarily bad people). In the movie, Johnny Cash's handlers tell him that his Christian-based audience ...
Great post, hester ! I'd add : unless you're not familiar with the belief in human redemption and belief in human ability to change after paying one's tribute to society. If we follow the OP's idea, then no prisoner should ever leave jail.
Oh yes, I'm so sure they screened every prisoner there to make sure they weren't rapists, pedophiles, and murderers. They were all actually there for not paying their taxes.
Don't condemn anybody until you know his crime and have walked a mile in his shoes.
Does this go for people who wear fur, and kill animals too? Because last I checked, members of PETA (which Joaquin supports )...
You're right, I DON'T believe in that bull when it comes to serious crimes. NO rapist, pedophile, or cold blooded murderer should be released from prison. Them being able to "change" makes no difference. Prison is punishment for their actions. The victim's families don't get any freedom from what happened, neither should the criminal.
And if Joaquin believed what you do, that would be even ...
Joaq doesn't shun or trash people who eat meat (unlike Pamela Anderson). He even had a BBQ where burgers were grilled for non-vegetarians.
"I am one who has no tale to tell. I made a gallows of my own doorway." --- Dante's Inferno
okay, powerpebble, I kind of see your point about the hypocracy, that is something that can be discussed. But what is the point of your post and the discussion in general? You don't seem to want to have a vital discussion about it, you just shoot down every response that comes from other posters, so why even start a post, if your mind is alredy set..?
I just wanted to point this out, and not have Joaquin fans running to his defense every single time someone points out an error. I've noticed that there are a select few regulars on here, who literally defend him every single time a person says something semi negative. Not once have I read a "you're right", or "I see your point". So thanks for at least giving that much.
I can't speak on Joaquin's behalf, so I'll touch on a couple points based on what I believe and based on things I've read on the PeTA website. I agree that Joaquin supports PeTA, but that doesn't necessarily mean that he supports every tactic and plan of action that they use. I agree with a lot of PeTA's causes, but again, I don't always see eye to eye when it comes to the way they go about ...
Hester, what I said made perfect sense. Perhaps you need me to spell it out for you. I'm not going to have crazy stalker fans like you, continuing to rant on for 5 more pages about this issue. I made my point, and that is that. Maybe you like to talk about Joaquin Phoenix 24/7, but I'd rather not spend a month discussing him with you. So please don't act like you of all people are logical, or better than anyone else. You're...
yech...wet farts. i don't want to think about it. You know, we mermaids are anatomically complete out of the water. I hope his trident works, though. It seems challenging. Maybe I should just learn to share.....NOT! "a malcontent who knows how to spell"
How do you know what I said if you won't read the post? Likely you know you can't counter the points I made. Your refusal to read yet foolishly argue the unknown proves that. You're scared, or just lazy. But either way, it is your rants, that have proved your unorthiness to further discussion. If you're responding to something you refuse to read that says a world about your level of intelligence or relevance in any...
Excuse me, lol. I posted and I didn't make up any excuses for him. I agree with you and brought up how degrading PETA is to women, humph. I was also able to state my point without getting into any arguments. So maybe you just haven't gotten your point across properly. Yes, we are all fans here and I agree at times it appears fans in general of anybody stick by the person no matter what. But I feel if your posts came off differently...
Did you put Joaq's head on Robin Williams body? Thats awhole lotta fur. Maybe we could shave him and make a coat. You call her by her last name? What do you do, salute in bed?
I'm also against fur,but I'm not going to throw fake blood on someone for it. The most fur-wearers'll get from me is probably a shake of the head. "I am one who has no tale to tell. I made a gallows of my own doorway." --- Dante's Inferno
A thigh or a shoulder????? What the heII am I going to do with them Hester...! hop
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