So many threads about basically the same thing but here's another one. One of the closing graphs:
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An all-out fire sale seems unlikely, but the Reds could earn salary relief, and maybe even decent prospects, in exchange for Phillips, Cordero or Arroyo (or, for that matter, Aaron Harang ). On the other hand, it might kill whatever hope the team has of ...
Im almost thinking it would be better to trade all of them and let this year be a year of our young players getting experience. Then next offseason we should have plenty of money to fill the holes that we need filled, plus next offseason its suppossed to be a much better free agent class and compete in 11. Think about it for a second...
Trade Phillips replace him with frazier. Who I have ...
I had just read that article too. I found it rather amusing all the proposed trades in the comments. Seems like a lot of people want Phillips. The Red Sox fans are freaking delusional though. Mike Lowell for Phillips? Good grief.
In regards to Frazier...I was under the impression that he did rather poorly to rather pedestrian defensively at second and that he's nowhere close to ready for ...
If Harang and Arroyo are traded and no reasonable replacement SP is obtained our pitching staff will be miserable and the bullpen will crumble due to overuse. Somebody has to throw innings, and Wood/Leake need time in the minors before being asked to throw 200 innings in MLB.
While it seems unlikely the Reds can compete this year, dumping those 2 starters will cause some major damage ...
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I had just read that article too. I found it rather amusing all the proposed trades in the comments. Seems like a lot of people want Phillips. The Red Sox fans are freaking delusional though. Mike Lowell for Phillips? Good grief.
That guy got reamed pretty handily a ...
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Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_
I had just read that article too. I found it rather amusing all the proposed trades in the comments. Seems like a lot of people want Phillips. The Red Sox fans are freaking delusional though. Mike Lowell for Phillips? Good grief.
That guy got reamed pretty ...
Absolute madness. If the front office can't afford the payroll as currently positioned, sell the franchise. Or move it. Or contract it. Or, here's a thought: do a better job marketing your product and selling tickets. Give the fans a compelling reason to tune in. Give the local broadcasters an incentive to purchase your media rights. This annual song and dance from the front office about why they...
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If Harang and Arroyo are traded and no reasonable replacement SP is obtained our pitching staff will be miserable and the bullpen will crumble due to overuse. Somebody has to throw innings, and Wood/Leake need time in the minors before being asked to throw 200 innings in MLB.
While it seems ...
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If Harang and Arroyo are traded and no reasonable replacement SP is obtained our pitching staff will be miserable and the bullpen will crumble due to overuse. Somebody has to throw innings, and Wood/Leake need time in the minors before being asked to throw 200 innings in MLB.
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Absolute madness. If the front office can't afford the payroll as currently positioned, sell the franchise. Or move it. Or contract it. Or, here's a thought: do a better job marketing your product and selling tickets. Give the fans a compelling reason to tune in. Give the local broadcasters an ...
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Absolute madness. If the front office can't afford the payroll as currently positioned, sell the franchise. Or move it. Or contract it. Or, here's a thought: do a better job marketing your product and selling tickets. Give the fans a compelling reason to tune in. Give the local ...
Re: MLBTR: Reds looking to deal Quote: Originally Posted by REDREAD I'm confused here. I think this happens all the time. The Reds just added Zach Stewart to offset the stench of EdE in the trade. If the Reds were willing to keep EdE, they could've probably gotten Rolen for a lesser prospect. You're right, thanks for pointing that out. What I should have said was I can't remember a trade in which throwing in a quality...
More Reds speculation : Quote: Sherman suggests that the two New York franchises could use their financial flexibility to explore the trade market. The Detroit Tigers and Cincinnati Reds are among the clubs reportedly looking to trade. Sherman thinks that the Yankees or Mets are in a position to take on a bad contract from one of these teams (such as Magglio Ordonez, Bronson Arroyo, or Francisco Cordero) if a more desirable piece, like Curtis...
Quote: Originally Posted by Falls City Beer Trades of vets for near-term young contributors is pretty much a shattered paradigm at this point. That might change--and it might change soon--but I've yet to see any signs of it. It might be best to just wait for the contracts of these players to run out and re-sign them at a greatly discounted rate (in comparison to their current contracts). If the Reds are willing to actually try to re-sign...
Quote: Originally Posted by TheNext44 It has always been the other way around. If a team like the Yankees wants a player like Phlllips, they have to take on a contract like Cordero, and give up quality players in return. Now I can hear you, I like what you are saying much better now. I was hitting the table with my keyboard, mouse and phone before, the reception is much better now.
Re: MLBTR: Reds looking to deal I disagree, Caveat. I think Phillips is largely overrated offensively and, while his glove is great, his lack of baseball instincts and overaggressiveness often lead to frustrating events. In short, he's a good player for $6 million or so, but not for more than that. Looking to deal him now, IMO, is not a poor move at all. __________________ "You can learn little from victory. You can learn...
Re: MLBTR: Reds looking to deal Quote: Originally Posted by Scrap Irony I disagree, Caveat. I think Phillips is largely overrated offensively and, while his glove is great, his lack of baseball instincts and overaggressiveness often lead to frustrating events. In short, he's a good player for $6 million or so, but not for more than that. Looking to deal him now, IMO, is not a poor move at all. Lack of baseball instincts? That...
This is what happens if Castellini hires me instead of Jocketty: I make one deal we all know would go through, Stubbs for Hardy. Forget the whole Scott Rolen nonsense and this is what you could have had in '11:. 1B Alonso 2B Phillips 3B Francisco/Frazier [platoon] SS Hardy | Cozart CA Hanigan LF Votto CF Dickerson/Heisey [platoon] RF Bruce | Dorn Volquez Bailey Cueto Harang/Arroyo/Wood Maloney Stewart Roenicke Massett Herrera Manuel...
Quote: Originally Posted by BrooklynRedz Absolute madness. If the front office can't afford the payroll as currently positioned, sell the franchise. Or move it. Or contract it. Or, here's a thought: do a better job marketing your product and selling tickets. Give the fans a compelling reason to tune in. Give the local broadcasters an incentive to purchase your media rights. This annual song and dance from the front office about why...
Quote: Originally Posted by BrooklynRedz Absolute madness. If the front office can't afford the payroll as currently positioned, sell the franchise. Or move it. Or contract it. Or, here's a thought: do a better job marketing your product and selling tickets. Give the fans a compelling reason to tune in. Give the local broadcasters an incentive to purchase your media rights. This annual song and dance from the front office about why...
Quote: Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ I had just read that article too. I found it rather amusing all the proposed trades in the comments. Seems like a lot of people want Phillips. The Red Sox fans are freaking delusional though. Mike Lowell for Phillips? Good grief. In regards to Frazier...I was under the impression that he did rather poorly to rather pedestrian defensively at second and that he's nowhere close to ready for the bigs...
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