Thread: Lotus Cobra

Quote: Originally Posted by tysith I didn't comment about the hype, just it is too early to condemn it. No it's not too early to condemn it. Too early to condemn it was Oct. 1. There have already been enough tournaments, it's not a very good card. Quote: Originally Posted by tysith It's not irrelevant, it's the basis of my arguments, that the card has potential upon further expansion. Not a very good basis. Your basis...

Quote: Originally Posted by AEIOUsometimesY 20 posts and no mention of Talara's Battalion ? Shame on you all! I think that card was probably the biggest bust, starting at $15 and going to $1-2....just imagine if the Battalion was Mythic -- it probably would have started even higher. I don't think Cobra will drop as much as Battalion, but I could still see it going to $6-8, which is still expensive for a Mythic (think many of the...

For a second I thought you were suggesting using cobra to play Talara's Battalion. Turn 2 cobra, turn 3 targomoyf + talara? ...wait. Rampant Growth could do that. Dang, ramp is just too exciting.

Quote: That doesn't change the fact that right now, it's not a spectacular card, as the hype suggested. I didn't comment about the hype, just it is too early to condemn it. Quote: Any card could be good based on "potential" and "expansion", so those are irrelevant. It's not irrelevant, it's the basis of my arguments, that the card has potential upon further expansion. Quote: I think...

Quote: Originally Posted by tysith Way too early to condemn the Cobra. ZenStand is only 5 weeks old. When it rotates out of standard is when it can be fully evaluated on it's playability. It still has a lot of potential and 3(?) Zen expansions before 2011 comes out. It's a matter of wait and seee, not condemnation because you can't think of anything good to combo it with. It can't be fully evaluated even when it rotates...

Quote: Originally Posted by FieryBalrog Reflecting Pool actually wasn't that good when it first came out in Time Spiral/Ravnica Standard. Another great example is Windbrisk Heights . Did anyone know this was going to be one of the powerhouse cards of the set? The idea would have been laughed at when Lorwyn was released. Its not always that obvious at first what's playable and what's not. Windbrisk Heights wasn't expected...

Never thought it was a good card, never thought it was going to break the format. I just think the hype was silly about it breaking the format. It clearly did not, and apparently people realized that Baneslayer "broke" the format even though it had been printed out for a long while.

I don't see how anyone can justify Cobra being overhyped, do we really have to bring back the numerous threads on how "it will change the face of standard" or "wizards are printing broken cards like this to blah blah blah"? It's a subpar card, it dosen't win games, and there were WAY too many people trying to maximize their best case scenarios, and not enough people minimizing their worst...

20 posts and no mention of Talara's Battalion ? Shame on you all! I think that card was probably the biggest bust, starting at $15 and going to $1-2....just imagine if the Battalion was Mythic -- it probably would have started even higher. I don't think Cobra will drop as much as Battalion, but I could still see it going to $6-8, which is still expensive for a Mythic (think many of the Planewalkers), and I think it will be played...

I have been saying this since the beginning. Lotus Cobra is NOT good. I'd rather have a BOP than a Lotus Cobra any day of the week. And then in the 13th month, too. If you have it, GET RID OF IT. That's all I am going to say.