Thread: Lieber Code: What's the problem?

Quote: Originally Posted by Elennsar Do we have Auger's plan involving prominent civilians written out in full somewhere? Or just that it involved prominent citizens on trains? Repeating my question to indicate my intentions. __________________ Though Duty's face is stern, her path is best: They sweetly sleep who die upon her breast. Henry Abbey, "The Roman Sentinel"

Quote: Originally Posted by ole ... Lieber wrote a code that is the basis of International Law. Did he beat his dog? Sheeze. I don't know about the dog. But in case anyone thinks he had an animus against "the South", Lieber owned several slaves while he was in South Carolina -- despite being being what modern-day PC would call "personally opposed" to the institution. Tim

They can be, Ms. Hale. But I don't see anyone stepping up to go through the procedures necessary to do that. Lots and lots of involvement and thought. The mods do have lives outside of this messing with most everything. We tend to skate along with what is, rather than what ought to be. I let most things slide. Being a peckerhead is not my bag. Ole __________________ If we don't survive as a free people, no one will. I'm...

That is my understanding as well. What's the Lieber Code, anyway? I guess I should read the start of the thread. __________________

[quote=Elennsar;154001] I think the term "human shields" is being used rather too loosely here. I can't help the human shield thing. It has came up in my research this week. There were human shields or to put it another way, people/soldiers put in harms way, intentionally to retaliate for some misdeed. As for heading west - west is a big place. Its unlikely that they'd want to travel through a war zone, however....

Quote: Originally Posted by K Hale Funny how Mosby was convicted of what amounts to reckless discharge of a gun, and not attempted murder, or even assault and battery. The jury and/or judge were connected to the bully's family. I can't find the specifics but it's probably in my Jeffry Wert book at home. Seriously, now, if you were a little guy like Mosby, and you had some big dude with a history of violence going around...

Quote: Originally Posted by Elennsar No, it harkens to "Do not kill if you can avoid it." I'm not claiming there's a reliable disabling shot, but there's no reliable kill shot, either. People are tough to bring down (unconscious, dead, or simply unable to act aggressively). So unless (and I'm trusting Ms. Hale here until this is proven otherwise) Mosby was in fear of his life, I hope he was intending to...

On August 4, 1863, W. T. Sherman in Camp on Big Black River, Mississippi, wrote to Grant at Vicksburg, "The amount of burning, stealing and plundering done by our army makes me ashamed of it. I would rather quit the service if I could, because I fear that we are drifting to the worst sort of vandalism....You and I and every commander must go through the war, justly charged with crimes at which we blush." - Federal Official...

Quote: Originally Posted by Elennsar No, it harkens to "Do not kill if you can avoid it." There's a technical term for people who do that in a combat situation... they're known as dead. Quote: Originally Posted by Elennsar I'm not claiming there's a reliable disabling shot, but there's no reliable kill shot, either. One in the boiler room generally gets the job done. Quote: Originally Posted by...

Quote: Originally Posted by trice This is so wrong-headed that it is pretty impossible to swallow. It was the generals of the US Army who were requesting clear instructions and guidelines from the government -- that is how we got the "Lieber Code" in the first place. Prior to the issuance of the "Lieber Code" in 1863, there was no formal, written code for conduct in war. It is universally regarded as the...