buckmeister wrote: I have two dogs, a lab and a peake, my lab was allowed to eat a duck on several boat rides back, never had a problem with her eating a duck before delivery, she was 13 months last year at the time. The peak is just a 15 week pup. I would never let them eat until a hunt is over and I give it to them. I feed my dogs raw venison, duck and goose when I have it. ( I figured ...
Do your dogs eat their food when you sit the bowl on ground before them or do they wait for you to tell them they can eat? If they wait for you to tell them to eat why do they wait ? isnt the core issue always obedience?
Mouth issues are hard enough to cure without encouraging them. I'am a firm believer in diff strokes for diff folks especially when it comes to training methods but anyone who allows this is only setting themself up for problems, jmho. Pa'peake note~ I gaurantee those early market hunters would not have allowed a Baydog to even take a nibble out of the very birds they were expected to gaurd.
Buck,..seriously, this absolutely does go against the grain in the worst kinda' way. I did the math and the Lab is what, a little over 2yrs. now? You may have created a big problem here, once the dog figures it's ok , it's gonna' continue,... and without your consent . One can only wonder if the dog would even hunt on an full stomach now If I was you I'd reconsider your dogs "eating habits...
Along with politics and religion comes a new debate - feeding raw meat - there are many proponents to this practice and many viable reasons why it's a good thing. I'd love to hear what Seth has to say about this. . . I'm thinking the dogs digestive tract was made for meat; personally, I feed very expensive high protein 42% w/ no grain kibble. Sorry, didn't mean go down a dry food path. Raw ...
MacMan wrote: Raw meat has high protein and no preservatives - other than you guys not wanting your dogs to eat the kill - how about valid reason why this is bad? What did they do in the 1800s? BTW: Canis lupus = Canis lupus familiaris (same DNA) wolf = dog MacMan, I'm referring to the ducks myself, but as far as raw meat, my thoughts would be that we know it's not good in the long run ...
MacMan wrote: I'm thinking the dogs digestive tract was made for meat While it's true that "dedicated carnivores," such as cats, have short digestive tracts most conducive to meat eating, canines' aren't so limited.
Re: bird eating, while I've not found it disastrous, it certainly can become a nuisance. My "coyote" isn't called that for nothing, and he's been introduced to bird eating both by enjoying free reign to catch and eat them in the field and through hunting related mishaps. (Like folks leaving birds in the bed of my truck with him without my knowledge. Grrrr...) No hardmouth issues have resulted...
Rick Hall wrote: Re: bird eating, while I've not found it disastrous, it certainly can become a nuisance. Rick, you're a better man than I , ...I can't imagine goin' on a duckhunt on a slow morning,( and weather patterns can give us more than one "slow morning" in a row ), and on the way back to the dock find what's left of your one and only Blackduck stuck all around Rovers' face like ...
buckmeister wrote: Swamp: No apology necessary! your example made perfect sense, my post about the obedience thing was to stir the pot, believe me I dont have that kind of control on my dog, and there is a difference between what I could get away with my dainty litle female lab and the ever growing male peake, she is not screwed up on the duck snack yet. My belief and desire about feeding my dogs clouded my judjment on the original post, I am...
Rick Hall wrote: gonehuntin' wrote: Rick Hall wrote: Just as an FYI, it's still pretty common for Southern bird dogs to be rewarded with quail heads, and I've seen field trialing Hall of Famer John Rex Gates say he'd have no qualms about feeding a dog a whole bird occasionally if he thought that would sharpen its game. But the yankee/hillbilly in me would never let me give that a shot. I, and anyone else that works with...
I think pump gunner nailed it, although the little peak seems like a sweet little lamb chop he managed to slip into the utility room and snagg a prize from the trash, as I was taking it from him he tried out his new puppy teeth and earned a vigorous rap on the snout, the memory drives home the point, dont let him associate the meat in the bowl with the game. If I was just raw feeding a dog and not training to hunt, I would just simply hand...
gonehuntin' wrote: Rick Hall wrote: Just as an FYI, it's still pretty common for Southern bird dogs to be rewarded with quail heads, and I've seen field trialing Hall of Famer John Rex Gates say he'd have no qualms about feeding a dog a whole bird occasionally if he thought that would sharpen its game. But the yankee/hillbilly in me would never let me give that a shot. I, and anyone else that works with pointing dogs has...
Rick Hall wrote: Just as an FYI, it's still pretty common for Southern bird dogs to be rewarded with quail heads, and I've seen field trialing Hall of Famer John Rex Gates say he'd have no qualms about feeding a dog a whole bird occasionally if he thought that would sharpen its game. But the yankee/hillbilly in me would never let me give that a shot. I, and anyone else that works with pointing dogs has heard that garbage....
If you wat to feed your dog raw meat at feeding time. feel free. I have heard mixed opionions on this. But if you go and see enough dogs work at test or trials you sill see different problems. liek a flyer shot to hell and the dog crunchs down on it and breaks every bone in the birds body. A dog that just decides to stop half way back and eat the duck. of when the dog comes back to heal and will nit give the duck back to anyone including the...
Mouth issues are hard enough to cure without encouraging them. I'am a firm believer in diff strokes for diff folks especially when it comes to training methods but anyone who allows this is only setting themself up for problems, jmho. Pa'peake note~ I gaurantee those early market hunters would not have allowed a Baydog to even take a nibble out of the very birds they were expected to gaurd.
Rick Hall wrote: MacMan wrote: I'm thinking the dogs digestive tract was made for meat While it's true that "dedicated carnivores," such as cats, have short digestive tracts most conducive to meat eating, canines' aren't so limited. I am with Rick on this one. Felines are true carnivores that only need to eat meat to survive. They are incapable of extracting energy from digesting plant material. Canines,...
sorry guys,but i once owned a male fox red lab who was well fed on tinned/biscuits/leftovers.,and was well looked after .he was obedient and was a very good retriever,although a touch lazy at times .he knew i was alpha male and apart from the odd challenge to my authority (to be expected though up to he was 3yr old.)he wasnt to bad a dog,easy going etc. the main problem with him was he stole game,he was a sneaky fu*ckin thief.from the first...
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