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Thread: Laserdisc on digital displays (pics welcome)...

Started 1 month, 1 week ago by SaxCatz
I have noted a few threads in the past where members were very disappointed with the results. I have recently rekindled my interest in laserdisc as I am a fan of the widely available, cheap titles and still appreciate the picture quality. In my opinion, the slight increase in resolution provided by DVD doesn't entirely make up for that certain something, that warmth if you will, that good ...
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Axatax replied 1 month, 1 week ago
You should check out Josh Z's site as he directly address the issue of LaserDisc on digital displays. You may be able to find satisfaction, but it is going to cost, big time (you'll need the upper tier of LD player and VP). You didn't mention what player and VP you're using. Jeff

SaxCatz replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Axatax You should check out Josh Z's site as he directly address the issue of LaserDisc on digital displays. You may be able to find satisfaction, but it is going to cost, big time (you'll need the upper tier of LD player and VP). You didn't mention what player and VP you're using. Jeff...

Kurtis Bahr replied 1 month, 1 week ago
I am a plasma fan and I tried Philips. Vizio, another brand from Sams Club and Pioneer and Pioneer was the only brand where the picture looked good and shaded areas stayed their natural color and did not have a green tint. If you want to keep old sources like Laserdisc I'd recommend finding a Pioneer before they are all gone.

eldithomaso replied 1 month ago
Run a composite signal from a 51db player (Pioneer 79/99 or 97 or better) to a Silicon Optix or Marvell enabled processor and you will be quite pleased. Outboard processors can work magic even with LD sources. Not BD quality for sure but certainly not bad either.

uderman replied 1 month ago
its been discussed many times before that composite over s-video does not provide a pure signal path on 97/99/79. These players seperates y/c for digital noise reduction and time base correction then recombine for composite output therefore the damage has already happened in these players inferior comb filters, there is no need to combine y/c and re-seperate again. I would suggest S-video out ...

eldithomaso replied 1 month ago
Quote: Originally Posted by uderman its been discussed many times before that composite over s-video does not provide a pure signal path on 97/99/79. These players seperates y/c for digital noise reduction and time base correction then recombine for composite output therefore the damage has already happened in these players inferior ...

eldithomaso replied 1 month ago
Quote: Originally Posted by uderman its been discussed many times before that composite over s-video does not provide a pure signal path on 97/99/79. These players seperates y/c for digital noise reduction and time base correction then recombine for composite output therefore the damage has already happened in these players inferior ...

Kurtis Bahr replied 1 month ago
Quote: Originally Posted by uderman its been discussed many times before that composite over s-video does not provide a pure signal path on 97/99/79. These players seperates y/c for digital noise reduction and time base correction then recombine for composite output therefore the damage has already happened in these players inferior ...

Kurtis Bahr replied 1 month ago
Quote: Originally Posted by uderman its been discussed many times before that composite over s-video does not provide a pure signal path on 97/99/79. These players seperates y/c for digital noise reduction and time base correction then recombine for composite output therefore the damage has already happened in these players inferior ...

SaxCatz replied 3 weeks ago
If anyone out there still cares, I'm planning on posting some more, hopefully better, examples from a few other discs. However, I was hoping to wait until my Epson HC8500UB arrives first. As soon as it does, I'll post some result on a modern digital projector to compare/contrast with the plasma results.

 

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jurid001
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-12-01 12:26:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Glimmie Quite true! And that flag must be set via timecode or by human intervention. Translation: It may not be accurate. In this regard I wonder how softwares like DVD2AVI do that. They seem to be very accurate in reconstructing original progressive frames.
Glimmie
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-12-01 07:49:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Axatax The issue of 3:2 flags embedded in MPEG-2 DVD is purely academic as **NO** DVDs ever produced have proper 3:2 flags ALL of the time. Feel free to provide a proper rebuttal and I'll be more than willing to concede. External DI hardware (including embedded **competent** DI HW in the player) will get this right more often than not). Jeff Quite true! And that flag must be set via timecode or by human...
SaxCatz
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-11-28 22:24:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by jurid001 Experimenting with the snapshots provided, it seems that there are no details beyond 512x384 pixels [found by resizing/upsizing in Irfanview with lanczos]. Even when downsized to 384x288 and then upsized the pics looks almost identical to the original. It makes LD picture closer to VCD than DVD. Quote: Originally Posted by jurid I would doubt that: LD is an interlaced analog format with nominal 425 lines....
eldithomaso
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-11-07 13:45:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by uderman its been discussed many times before that composite over s-video does not provide a pure signal path on 97/99/79. These players seperates y/c for digital noise reduction and time base correction then recombine for composite output therefore the damage has already happened in these players inferior comb filters, there is no need to combine y/c and re-seperate again. I would suggest S-video out with digital...
Kurtis Bahr
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-11-07 21:22:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by uderman its been discussed many times before that composite over s-video does not provide a pure signal path on 97/99/79. These players seperates y/c for digital noise reduction and time base correction then recombine for composite output therefore the damage has already happened in these players inferior comb filters, there is no need to combine y/c and re-seperate again. I would suggest S-video out with digital...
Josh Z
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-11-28 22:10:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by jurid I would doubt that: LD is an interlaced analog format with nominal 425 lines. It is definitely not equivalent of good progressive 425 lines of the DVD (Krell factor anyone?). It may be though equivalent to 80% of early crappy inter-laced DVDs. DVD is a 480i interlaced format. Any progressive scan image gotten from a DVD comes from deinterlacing the video after MPEG decoding.
uderman
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-12-01 03:50:00)
i bought star trek the next generation season 1 on dvd. its full screen and the pq is equal to average to good transfered ld. if any of you have any star trek tng lds could you please tell me how they compare to the dvd version? if they are above average lds they must be real close to dvd editions. i did a little research they were shot in 35mm in full screen and stereo for audio. i like the ld cover arts and if the pq is similar to dvds i...
Axatax
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-12-01 05:10:00)
The issue of 3:2 flags embedded in MPEG-2 DVD is purely academic as **NO** DVDs ever produced have proper 3:2 flags ALL of the time. Feel free to provide a proper rebuttal and I'll be more than willing to concede. External DI hardware (including embedded **competent** DI HW in the player) will get this right more often than not). Jeff
JOHNnDENVER
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-11-18 15:42:00)
Now that link was fun..... Laserdisc had a great run... I'd say it was accurate that is was the future for movie buffs when that segment was made. I still use them quite often on my 1080p projector. It actually ended up being the main deciding factor for which projector I chose. Svideo, no video processor... CLD99 player.
RMSMT
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Laserdisc on digital displays...
Published (2009-11-19 02:36:00)
One thing i can tell you guys, the Laserdisc picture (with Pioneer HLD X9) it's fantastic in Pioneer KRP-500A/600A Plasma. The Pioneer Plasma Last Generation has Very High Quality Detail in both SD and HD picture. Pioneer never let's us down...

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