As the title states, this is almost certainly the set-up I am going for, read some reviews on the US side of the forum but their roads are far different to the dirt tracks we have here! Anyone running this set-up that can give me an informed review?
Any opinions welcome....thought i'd last longer than 2 weeks before modding!
P.S I have searched using 'koni fsd eibach' on UK forum
What about the Bilstein B12 or B14?? very good for £800-£1000 IMO - top quality upside down monotube design and properly tuned by road test.
BTW the U.S. roads are generally much worse than ours believe me. Their 'sport' kits are usually softer than european ones.
It really depends upon what you want from your setup.
I think that Eibach pro springs give the best drop for our cars - and they do match well to FSDs (but not with springs that drop more than Eibachs). However, FSDs are compromised. They are a compliant ride, better than stock - and do improve handling over stock also, but to a point. Towards the limit FSDs are not as capable as Koni ...
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What about the Bilstein B12 or B14?? very good for £800-£1000 IMO - top quality upside down monotube design and properly tuned by road test.
BTW the U.S. roads are generally much worse than ours believe me. Their 'sport' kits are usually softer than european ones.
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The Koni Yellows are regarded as pretty stiff even on the softest settings. Bilsteins are regarded as being as stiff as Koni Yellows at 50%-75% full stiffness. I have also seen a very details analysis of Bilstneins vs Koni Yellows, and the emperical data shows that Konis actually handle rough roads better than the Bilsteins.
Given that the Bilsteins are twice the price of the Konis, I ...
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The Koni Yellows are regarded as pretty stiff even on the softest settings. Bilsteins are regarded as being as stiff as Koni Yellows at 50%-75% full stiffness. I have also seen a very details analysis of Bilstneins vs Koni Yellows, and the emperical data shows that Konis actually handle rough roads ...
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the reason i'm lowering this time is for aesthetics, i'm going for springs and shocks as I have read the m sport shocks don't work well with just springs?
AFAIK - Yahoo knows too - just fitting lowered / stiffened springs will work fine with standard m sport dampers.
A lot ...
B12 is pretty stiff - it is the one I'm referring to above. Koni Yellows offer adjustment from 25% stiffer than stock (on the softest settings) to very stiff - almost solid.
Allthough the Koni Yellows are stiffer then stock, many people regard them as being a better ride than stock as they are more controlled, and less floaty thant the stock Bilsteins.
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AFAIK - Yahoo knows too - just fitting lowered / stiffened springs will work fine with standard m sport dampers.
A lot cheaper both to buy and fit.
You'll keep the standard compliance, so if its just looks you're after then just go for springs.
Yahoo is this your view ...
I remember someone here, Tony maybe, talking about the fixed bilsteins being about midway in the range of the adjustable units.
Remember the adjustable damping (on any adjustable damper) only effects the slow damping, not the fast damping which is fixed.
So ruts, potholes and other sudden bumps will feel the same regardless of setting.
I agree with Doughboy two posts above - Eibach Pros on stock dampers are acceptable, just not great.
I am doing M3 parts (tension arms, wishbones, ARBs and subframe dampers) along with non RFTs and Eibach pros before I decide ultimately whether to upgrade my dampers. I suspect I will - to what though I am as yet undecided (probably FSDs, or maybe Yellows, or maybe KW V3s or or or . . . . . ...
Well, fitted my springs this afternoon - I will be posting up the 'how-to' and pictures when I get chance....opinions so far the ride comfort isn't affected much but the bodyroll is reduced, not had the opportunity to put them through their paces yet.
Quote: Originally Posted by Logic108 Is there a reason why you don't want to install OEM? The BMW Performance suspension looks good. I guess you track your car right? yes, it looks good, but that's about it as far I've heard. 1 damper set for the entire range of E9x cannot possibly ever be right for most of them due the varying weight / distribution / brakes / power / wheel sizes etc You need tested damper / spring combo's...
Correct - although the spring rates are similar to stock , the Eibachs are progressive, meaning the coils are closer together at the bottom - preventing bottoming out.
Quote: Originally Posted by doughboy I'm interested in what YvesD says though, it seems odd for anyone to make lowered springs at the same rate as the OE springs, they would really be hitting the bump stops frequently. If you make a shorter spring it really has to be a higher rate to support the same vehicle over a shorter travel. Check ot Mr 5's sticky on the US suspension/brakes/chassis forum where all the different manufacturers...
The Eibachs are a great product and at a great price, I've had them before on other cars and they do make a difference in handling for sure. The BMW performance do look good but the price doesn't! Marc
Quote: Originally Posted by J@mie I work in a dealership, so have access to a ramp, have all my own tools and have fitted springs/shocks to all of my cars, so fitting would be gratis! I was looking on this website earlier, can't find anyone else close to their prices! Fancy fitting 2 sets? What dealership you at?
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