I have read that when Umberto of Savoya died, in his testament he wrote that he wanted to be buried with the ring or seal of the Savoya family.
The ring, or seal was the symbol of the Savoy family. All the Kings of Italy had carried it. But Umberto haven´t good relationship with his son (the nonacceptance of the marriage of Victor Manuel with Maria Doria).
He wanted to say, buried with the ...
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Originally Posted by BELTRANEJA
I have read that when Umberto of Savoya died, in his testament he wrote that he wanted to be buried with the ring or seal of the Savoya family.
The ring, or seal was the symbol of the Savoy family. All the Kings of Italy had carried it. But Umberto haven´t good relationship with his son (the ...
Is it true!!. It is in his tomb.
Umberto was carried to the grave a dynasty.
But his last will is not fulfilled, I think, that he is not buried in Italy..
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Originally Posted by BELTRANEJA
Is it true!!. It is in his tomb.
Umberto was carried to the grave a dynasty.
But his last will is not fulfilled, I think, that he is not buried in Italy..
No, he and Queen Maria José are buried inside the Hautcombe Abbey in Savoy (France), that was formerly part of Italy.
It seems their marriage was the last royal marriage that was truly arranged and for political reason. By the 20th century, even though royals still married each other, they usually had some say in whom they married. Even Marie-Jose's brother, Leopold III, married Astrid for love.
I wonder if the Belgian royal family held on to conservative views on marriage longer than other families. Wasn't ...
It was partially for political reasons, and partially because Marie Jose
and Bepo got along well. Alot of that, though, was MJ's mother's fault. She
made Bepo out to be the typical heroic prince charming that every little
girl dreams of. So when it came time for MJ to marry, the families
supported it and MJ thought she would be marrying the love of her life.
However, it didn't exactly turn out ...
Quote: Originally Posted by Tosca I had never heard of any illegitimate children of King Umberto before, neither did the Italian press ever mentioned. Do you think if there were any love children of the King, wouldn't those tabs or cheap mags like Novella 2000 or Eva have been in their element? I recall they had plenty of articles about Princess Maria Beatrice and actor Maurizio Arena's scandalous relationship... Supposing that...
I had never heard of any illegitimate children of King Umberto before, neither did the Italian press ever mentioned. Do you think if there were any love children of the King, wouldn't those tabs or cheap mags like Novella 2000 or Eva have been in their element? I recall they had plenty of articles about Princess Maria Beatrice and actor Maurizio Arena's scandalous relationship... Supposing that Umberto had a child out of the wedlock,...
Quote: Originally Posted by MAfan I know that is false: the Shah asked for marrying Maria Gabriella, but she and King Umberto refused, because of he was a muslim and too old for her. However, a man, Josef Monhud Palhevi Savoia, claims to be the son of the Shah and of the Princess... Do you know why the Shah asked for Maria Habriella? Did he know her before of the divorce with Soraya? Regards!!
Quote: Originally Posted by MAfan She had lived in Italy for 16 years, before the exile, and she had also studied in Firenze in her youthness... I already knew this, I read it in a book years ago: Santa Annunziata,isn't it?
Rai.TV - La grande storia - Umberto II di Savoia Last week, Italian state tv broadcasted this documentary on Umberto II. Almost 2 hours speaking exactly of all the matters we disuss in this thread. The documentary was made by historian and prince Nicola Caracciolo di Castagneto. It contains parts of the historic interviews of Nicola Caracciolo to Umberto II and to Maria Josè; the others interview should be new: princess Maria Gabriella,...
Quote: Originally Posted by PaulineMaria As someone who is a personal advisor to Royals and Nobles, a trained holistic health therapist, counsellor, hypnotherapist psychotherapist and personal coaching; as a consultant - Notwithstanding these credentials, as Tosca has previously stated we will not pursue this subject as it remains an unproven and unsubstantiated claim. Warren TRF Administrator
Is it true!!. It is in his tomb. Umberto was carried to the grave a dynasty. But his last will is not fulfilled, I think, that he is not buried in Italy..
Quote: Originally Posted by Leslie2006 It was partially for political reasons, and partially because Marie Jose and Bepo got along well. Alot of that, though, was MJ's mother's fault. She made Bepo out to be the typical heroic prince charming that every little girl dreams of. So when it came time for MJ to marry, the families supported it and MJ thought she would be marrying the love of her life. However, it didn't exactly turn...
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