This is just meant to be a fun debate.
I know the Abrams is a moderen marvel, far advanced from the mighty King Tiger, and it should be an easy win for the Abrams, right? Wait, not so fast...it may seem silly, but mabey the KT is strong enough to hold it's own! Just a fun scenario I will offer...
An Abrams and a King Tiger are facing off. At a distance of 1600 meters (1 mile), the ...
King Tiger vs. Abrams
This is just meant to be a fun debate.
I know the Abrams is a moderen marvel, far advanced from the mighty King Tiger, and it should be an easy win for the Abrams, right? Wait, not so fast...it may seem silly, but mabey the KT is strong enough to hold it's own! Just a fun scenario I will offer...
An Abrams and...
Well...say America finally pulls it troops out of Germany after 65 long years. And say Germany begins behaving badly once again. They began taunting France and things escilate, so America sends in Abrams tanks.
Near a German town bordering France (where the Abrams tanks are coming in), there is a King Tiger in a museum, perfect condition. Leapord tanks are still 60 miles out and closing, so ...
heeeeee, your story gives me a good laugh. In realrity, M1 takes out T72 at
distance of 2500m kill range over 2000m(t72). By the way, the King tiger
hass no chance on both speed and its thick armour takes no stand from the
modern shells. Sorry, thats the truths. Its like an elephant figting a
polar bear.
A T-90 can be knocked out by an Abrams at quite a range. A King Tiger wouldn't stand a snowballs chance in hell. Not to mention while the KT is backing up the Abrams could pop another shot off.
Hell even an Abrams has a hard time taking a shot from another Abrams.
Now if this King Tiger were to hide in a side street, and get a flank shot on the Abrams it might work.
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Originally Posted by Panzer118
heeeeee, your story gives me a good laugh. In realrity, M1 takes out T72 at distance of 2500m kill range over 2000m(t72). By the way, the King tiger hass no chance on both speed and its thick armour takes no stand from the modern shells. Sorry, thats the truths. Its like an elephant figting a ...
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Originally Posted by wengart
Now if this King Tiger were to hide in a side street, and get a flank shot on the Abrams it might work.
Well yeah, but could a King Tigers 88mm penetrate an Abrams side from 10 meters? I bet its a close call. I know it would knock off the tracks.
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Originally Posted by Blue Lightning
Well yeah, but could a King Tigers 88mm penetrate an Abrams side from 10 meters? I bet its a close call. I know it would knock off the tracks.
Also remember that a round leaving the barrel of a tank/any barrel is not up to full volicity @ 10 meters.
Can't remember...
Quote: And the only way a King Tiger could damage an Abrams is if the Abrams' crew was passed out from drinking and left a hatch open. Ok, lets paint that into the scenario. Question: can the KT get a shot off at 1500 meters, and hit the open hatch of an Abrams? Quote: The King Tiger would be better off if it were made of paper. It might then be light enough to run and hide. It's armor is absolutely useless against an Abrams (or any...
Quote: Originally Posted by Blue Lightning If the SABOT round's entry is only the size of a quarter, I'm sorry, but thats like thin armor gettign shot with a rifle. The small of a round might enter, but the damage it can do is neglagible. A tiny dart-like round entering the tank might miss the entire crew and go out the other side with no damage being done. Meanwhile the L/71 is preparing to fire at the turret/hull gap... This...
Quote: Originally Posted by Blue Lightning A tiny dart-like round entering the tank might miss the entire crew and go out the other side with no damage being done. Correct, the Sabot itself might miss all crew. But the thing that it -will- do is cause all sorta spalling inside the vehicle, which will be very likely to kill the crew. There are reports & photos of what happens to T-72s and similar era tanks that get nailed with the...
Sorry I was not clear about the spall liner. Spall liner is not a flexible form of kevlar. Its technical name is "multi-ply Kevlar / thermoset resin laminate sheet" Traditional Kevlar body armor will not stop spall from your own tank flying around at thousands of feet per second, and its best to stop the spall from ever reaching you in the first place. Suits are not practical in such a tight environment, not only would they...
The Sabot is not even going to break a sweat. In the Gulf War, A single Sabot from a M1A1 hit and killed two Iraqi T-72s . T-72s have about 280mm of armor,which is 280x4= 1120mm of armor. I think the King Tiger doesn't stand a chance. Oh and the sand bags? They are worthless. "The penetration characteristics of Sabot was so great that enemy tanks could be engaged behind sand berms, the Sabot penetrating between ten to thirty...
I wouldnt like to say for sure, but id imagine the SABOT round would penetrate the KT at a mile. I think I read somewhere that they can disable modern tanks at well over 1500m. Absolutely no idea about the turret/hull gap...hopefully yes, cuz that would be cool!
But the P1500 Monster was from the "monster class" , not the main battle tank MBT. I still think the SturmTiger could do the job. It could penetrate a 2.5m concrete bunker and their was a story of one single shell/rocket pwnd 3 Shermans. But if we think about it, the SturmTiger wasn't a MBT. But i think it was the only real WW2 tank capable of KO a Abraham.
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