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Thread: KLH 6 vs AR 2AX Old Fashioned Shootout

Started 2 months ago by DjLebaron
Ok, I updated the caps in the 2AX and I am listening once again. I have decided that you cannot find a clear winner, they just sound so different from one another. But it is clear that the KLH 6 is the better sounding speaker to my ears. It does sound bright (or perhaps have a lot of presence) in comparison but they are so spacious sounding with great imaging. And the decrease setting on the X-...
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gogofast replied 2 months ago
i had both speakers for 3 years and came to same conclusion. plus, model six is a lot easier to drive even with low powered tube amps.

DjLebaron replied 2 months ago
I have tried to drive them with my 14 watt heathkits and found that is was not enough. I also tried a Fisher 222 and 299 and thought they still needed more juice. How much power do you give them?

EPI-Center replied 2 months ago
the thing I always liked about the 6's was their soundstage...it was like being at a concert....

tmad40blue replied 2 months ago
You made the right decision keeping the KLH. While the AR's are great, they definitely have that AR sound to them, which most people seem to find faults in (I don't; I think it's wonderful).

Gang-Twanger replied 2 months ago
I'd love to be able to do a shootout between the 6 (and a couple other KLH models), the AR3A, and the Wharf W60E (and W60D). I'm actually interested in reading a shootout of a bunch of late'60's/early '70's acoustic-suspension models (Both 2-way AND 3-way).

Susurus replied 2 months ago
Cool shootout, great upstream setup too. What material did you listen to? I had two pairs of AR2ax and a 4ax, nice speakers and I see why many people like them. (I got overwhelmed, I wanted to either do a complete restore for cosmetics and replace the L-pads or passing them on...I went the easy route.) I kept the KLH-20's though. Later even got a second set of 20's and a rather rare ...

Susurus replied 2 months ago
In the 3-way 1960's acoustic suspension war my Scott S-11D set beat my W-60's. The Warfs looked better of course, curved front and super furniture quality fit/finish and lush veneer. For fun I even hooked those up to the Hafler P-500 and the bass was astounding. Quote: Originally Posted by Gang-Twanger I'd love to be able ...

Gang-Twanger replied 2 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Susurus In the 3-way 1960's acoustic suspension war my Scott S-11D set beat my W-60's. The Warfs looked better of course, curved front and super furniture quality fit/finish and lush veneer. For fun I even hooked those up to the Hafler P-500 and the bass was astounding. HH Scotts... 11D's ...

Susurus replied 2 months ago
Yes, the stand was borrowed from my DQM-9's and looks like they took the design from JBL. Yes the tweet is a very modern-sounding phenolic diaphragm Philips. These HHScotts in the mid-late 60s were Kloss clones but very good ones, and heavy at 55 lbs each. It was the W60E version I had. Probably not a fair test since they didn't have original square-back woofers... I would not have sold them if ...

 

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Susurus
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Published (2009-11-07 18:36:00)
Philips polycarbonate dome, yes some of the Avid 100s used it too. Difference would be in the crossovers even more than the cabs; in the HH Scotts of this late 60s-ish era say "Controlled Impedance Wide-Range Loudspeaker System". The woofer is run full-range, relying the natural dropoff of the driver, an interesting strategy. I used to think gradual slopes like 6dB were all I liked until my Hales showed me sharp slopes can...
Zilch
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Published (2009-11-09 14:11:00)
Read Post #13 there again. These are nearfield measurements of bass response and not valid above 200 Hz. You're looking at the woofer cones interfering with themselves at this close distance above there. That is a study of low frequency response (only) of various acoustic suspension speakers....
tmad40blue
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Published (2009-11-07 11:15:00)
I actually have - I heard a pair of 43-somethings when I last went down to visit Oberlin College (hoping to go there next year). I know that KLH and AR are both very east-coast, but they still have very different tone qualities to them.
barredowl
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Oberlin, excellent choice I went there for 4 years myself, say hello to Harkness co-op for me if you go. Lots of music fans and freaks there.
Gang-Twanger
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Quote: Originally Posted by Zilch http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=247274 Thanks, Zilch. I'm checking it out now. I'm such a novice so it's hard tp understand a lot of the graph data, but I understand some of it. That Advent seems like it has a huge hole in the upper-mids (Cons of a 2-way design?). That's one thing that my speakers DO NOT have. They have a slight bump in the low-end (the upper-low-end), but...
gogofast
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Published (2009-11-09 01:41:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by RxDx I just hooked up a Carver HR-772 receiver to some AR2s. It's only a 125 watts per channel, but I managed to blow one of two tweeters in each speaker, and pull the voice coil spider off the frame of one woofer. AR recommended 20-40 watts. So, yeah, they are power-thirsty speakers, but it is possible to hurt 'em :-) sorry to hear that. but i didn't mean you can crank 'em up as much as you...
DjLebaron
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I have tried to drive them with my 14 watt heathkits and found that is was not enough. I also tried a Fisher 222 and 299 and thought they still needed more juice. How much power do you give them?
shacky
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Published (2009-11-07 23:00:00)
Guess I was thinking of the 2A's.
EPI-Center
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the thing I always liked about the 6's was their soundstage...it was like being at a concert....
Spikedart
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Published (2009-11-07 17:40:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Susurus In the 3-way 1960's acoustic suspension war my Scott S-11D set beat my W-60's. The Warfs looked better of course, curved front and super furniture quality fit/finish and lush veneer. For fun I even hooked those up to the Hafler P-500 and the bass was astounding. HH Scotts... 11D's are on the left: Those Scotts have exactly the same mids and phillips tweeters that my friend has in his Avids....

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