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Thread: JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld

Started 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Preroll
I'm about to do a new OS install. In the past, I would just go to OPTIONS - SECURITY OPTIONS - GENERAL SETTINGS - hit Menu and select WIPE HANDHELD. Then do an OS install followed by a restore of data that I backed up with DM. Does anyone know if there's an advantage to using the JL_Cmdr over the built in Wipe Handheld for clearing out the unit? I tried to read up on JL_Cmdr and can only ...
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jsconyers replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
JL_Cmder removes the entire OS from the device, leaving it at a JVM 507 error. The security wipe only removes the data from the device and leaves the OS in tact. However, you don't need to run either when upgrading your device. I never wipe my device prior to upgrading. Some people say they do to get a "clean" install, but a wipe is done during the install process prior to loading the new ...

Preroll replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by jsconyers JL_Cmder removes the entire OS from the device, leaving it at a JVM 507 error. The security wipe only removes the data from the device and leaves the OS in tact. However, you don't need to run either when upgrading your device. I never wipe my device prior to upgrading. Some people say ...

jsconyers replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
1) Sometimes if you're receiving errors, your only option may to be wipe the device. Also, as I've stated, some people like to have a "clean" install. 2) It is as simple as running the OS install as you would any other time.

TTsoldier replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Guess it's like install Win 7 over Vista. Clean install vs upgrade I always do a full wipe when upgrading.

takeshi replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Preroll 1) Why would you want to get the unit completely wiped to receive the JVM 507 error? Maybe I'm misreading the question but the error isn't the goal. Entirely wiping the device is.

Preroll replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by takeshi Maybe I'm misreading the question but the error isn't the goal. Entirely wiping the device is. Yep...that's what I was driving at!

snowwy66 replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
doing an upgrade says it's wiping out files but it don't. otherwise people wouldn't recommend clean installs. i always have better performace with new installs using jlcommander. everytime i do upgrades i get big time glitches. you wouldn't build a new house on a used foundation. why would you do upgrades. pc or phone. nothing but headaches.

Preroll replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by jsconyers 2) It is as simple as running the OS install as you would any other time. Well...I finally used JL_CMDR last night and when it was time to reload the OS, I found out that Desktop Manager couldn't find my device [Device Connected (PIN): None]. Sooo.....after having a heart ...

x14 replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Preroll I'm not sure if there were other things to try but that worked and I actually found the OS install to be quicker with nothing in the unit vs. doing an upgrade from a previous OS version. There are times you will want to just do the OS upgrade. If you have application that were ...

NovaM replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
The idea of wiping first is simply to eliminate the possibility of a corrupted file on an upgrade... it's rare, but it happens, and you end up with a berry in a reboot loop until you wipe it... I prefer a clean wipe and reload... but I enjoy playing with settings every time I do a new install... I pretty much only ever put my address book and calander back on... even 3rd party apps get ...

 

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Preroll
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JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld
Published (2009-11-17 12:08:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by jsconyers 2) It is as simple as running the OS install as you would any other time. Well...I finally used JL_CMDR last night and when it was time to reload the OS, I found out that Desktop Manager couldn't find my device [Device Connected (PIN): None]. Sooo.....after having a heart attack, I went to C:\Program Files\Common Files\Research In Motion\AppLoader and ran loader.exe. I'm not sure if there were...
jsconyers
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JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld
Published (2009-11-12 15:28:00)
1) Sometimes if you're receiving errors, your only option may to be wipe the device. Also, as I've stated, some people like to have a "clean" install. 2) It is as simple as running the OS install as you would any other time.
TTsoldier
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JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld
Published (2009-11-12 16:09:00)
Guess it's like install Win 7 over Vista. Clean install vs upgrade I always do a full wipe when upgrading.
takeshi
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JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld
Published (2009-11-13 11:16:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Preroll 1) Why would you want to get the unit completely wiped to receive the JVM 507 error? Maybe I'm misreading the question but the error isn't the goal. Entirely wiping the device is.
snowwy66
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JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld
Published (2009-11-13 21:03:00)
doing an upgrade says it's wiping out files but it don't. otherwise people wouldn't recommend clean installs. i always have better performace with new installs using jlcommander. everytime i do upgrades i get big time glitches. you wouldn't build a new house on a used foundation. why would you do upgrades. pc or phone. nothing but headaches.
x14
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JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld
Published (2009-11-17 13:06:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Preroll I'm not sure if there were other things to try but that worked and I actually found the OS install to be quicker with nothing in the unit vs. doing an upgrade from a previous OS version. There are times you will want to just do the OS upgrade. If you have application that were installed OTA you may not want to use JL_Cmdr. Doing an OS upgrade the normal way will backup those applications and re-install...
NovaM
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JL_Cmdr vs. Wipe Handheld
Published (2009-11-17 13:25:00)
The idea of wiping first is simply to eliminate the possibility of a corrupted file on an upgrade... it's rare, but it happens, and you end up with a berry in a reboot loop until you wipe it... I prefer a clean wipe and reload... but I enjoy playing with settings every time I do a new install... I pretty much only ever put my address book and calander back on... even 3rd party apps get omitted, because once it's back up, I can...

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