Thread: Is Google Guilty of Self Serving or Personal Gain??
Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by goldmind123
Hello Warriors,
The last week, I noticed that youtube videos are ranking very high for many of the competitive search terms I'm working on..
These videos were around for a while now, and when I checked backlinks, I didn't find a big improvement of their backlinking profile, some of them with 15-20 links are beating sites with thousands of backlinks with for the same keyphrases......
That's right...with universal search, you'll see things pulled from their news, blogs, video, local, and ecommerce databases and whatever else they throw in there these days.
It takes up one of the slots on the results page, so from a purely SEO perspective you do stand less of a chance of showing up on page one.
However, don't look at this as getting shut out of page one. You...
Last time I looked Google etc are businesses with share holders etc and can do what they like.
I think Michael has it right.
So many people seem to feel that companies like Paypal, google etc owe us but in actual fact they are providing the service.
Quentin
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Originally Posted by goldmind123
Now, do you think we are on a new trend of "self serving" or "personal gain" here?
Just wondering..
It's not a new trend, just a different iteration of the age-old seeking of the almighty dollar. Nothing wrong with that.
Knowing what's going on is one of ...
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Originally Posted by Quentin
Last time I looked Google etc are businesses with share holders etc and can do what they like.
I think Michael has it right.
So many people seem to feel that companies like Paypal, google etc owe us but in actual fact they are providing the service.
Quentin
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I don't understand what you are saying, they are just making a profit.
There search engine is still a free service, they can set up the search engine however they want. They have never disclosed how it works anyway.
There is nothing wrong with them giving their own sites extra weight.
Google need to maintain quality + advertisers as well. Some time with SEO people can promote bad content which is not useful for other people at all. We can see plenty of such useless sites in google searches.
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Originally Posted by Slin
I don't understand what you are saying, they are just making a profit.
There search engine is still a free service, they can set up the search engine however they want. They have never disclosed how it works anyway.
There is nothing wrong with them giving their own sites extra weight....
I do not see the problem here.. It is google's site to do with as they wish. We are their guest and there is nothing that says you will be indexed in the search results at all. As their guest you should consider yourself lucky.
With that said, there are other search engines and if you are just depending upon google then that is a huge mistake.
Also I would like to point out that...
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Originally Posted by goldmind123
NO THEY DON'T
They don't have the right to push their sites to the top for just being their sites, what I'm saying is that, if this is the case, they should disclose this to the public..
Microsoft gone on fire with the legal authorities for enforcing their windows operating ...
Quote: Originally Posted by GarrieWilson Well, if Google is simply listing their properties first when possible and not because it's more relevant, they should have a disclaimer. Especially with the latest FTC rulings because they are recommending something AND earn from that recommendation. And no, people do NOT have the right to put anything they want on their site. Thanks, finally someone got what I mean
Quote: Originally Posted by goldmind123 Why some people turned it to a conversation where I whining about Google and they started to defend Google where no defense is required? First, I open the topic according to my observations of youtube video raising in search results without apparent reasons (the same video has been there for months and all of a sudden it's up to dominate the search results) Second, I don't attack Google, I...
Ah huh! I'm telling mom! That's not fair! They can't do that! They're naughty. Sorry, but this isn't grade school. If you don't like Google, or what they're doing, then don't use them. If enough people stop using them because they feel the results are not relevant, then the open marketplace will dictate what happens. I understand you're miffed, but honestly, what can you do about it? A. Get bent...
Another thing... Google has built a reputation and trust on providing the best, most accurate results. If they start purposely displaying results that are not true, in favor of their properties, they could face legal issues. Fraud.
Quote: Originally Posted by goldmind123 NO THEY DON'T They don't have the right to push their sites to the top for just being their sites, what I'm saying is that, if this is the case, they should disclose this to the public.. Microsoft gone on fire with the legal authorities for enforcing their windows operating systems users to use their browser IE... Things aren't going this way, and Google isn't free to manipulate...
Quote: Originally Posted by GarrieWilson Another thing... Google has built a reputation and trust on providing the best, most accurate results. If they start purposely displaying results that are not true, in favor of their properties, they could face legal issues. Fraud. "Best" and "most accurate" are arbitrary. They don't give the best, most accurate results now. Good luck with that lawsuit.
Quote: Originally Posted by goldmind123 Sam, you know I always respect your posts and I'm sorry for getting you on an opposite side of this conversation Again, it's not about me pissed off with Google, it's more like a theoretical discussion: -Does Google have the right to manipulate their search engine results to their own advantage? and if it happens someday and they decided to do so, how we should deal with such a situation?...
Google need to maintain quality + advertisers as well. Some time with SEO people can promote bad content which is not useful for other people at all. We can see plenty of such useless sites in google searches.
That's right...with universal search, you'll see things pulled from their news, blogs, video, local, and ecommerce databases and whatever else they throw in there these days. It takes up one of the slots on the results page, so from a purely SEO perspective you do stand less of a chance of showing up on page one. However, don't look at this as getting shut out of page one. You can still fill that video slot if you make a video...
Last time I looked Google etc are businesses with share holders etc and can do what they like. I think Michael has it right. So many people seem to feel that companies like Paypal, google etc owe us but in actual fact they are providing the service. Quentin
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