In my opinion, its not in the Northeast. Maybe its not officially "the south" by location, climate, or culture, but if you ask anyone in NYC or Boston if D.C. is considered a Northeastern city, they'll look at you like your crazy. The culture is just much different than what you see up year. The accents start to become more "southern" in the D.C. area and the winters are significantly shorter ...
I don't really use the term "Northeast", I divide it into New England & Mid-Atlantic.
DC is a Mid-Atlantic city, so is Baltimore, Philadelphia & New York City.
The Mid-Atlantic is a little Southern but the majority of it is Northern.
You could even hear it in the speech in Mid-Atlantic cities that it draws influence from both the North & South.
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Originally Posted by Infamous92
DC is a Mid-Atlantic city, so is Baltimore, Philadelphia & New York City.
The Mid-Atlantic is a little Southern but the majority is Northern.
You could even hear it in the speech in Mid-Atlantic cities that it draws influence from both the North & South.
Although New ...
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Although New Yorkers and people from NJ don't seem to have a trace of "the south" in their accents. I feel that once you hit MD your in the process of crossing the border, and anything below that is SOUTH. Atleast speaking from someone from the North.
I agree, even in NY/NJ you ...
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I agree, even in NY/NJ you can hear the Southern a little (not in everybody though), I hear words like "ain't", "gon" (gonna), etc. but in a different accent or a mixed New York/Southern accent.
"ain't" isnt southern, its slang. people from Mass. say "aint" too (loads of ...
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"ain't" isnt southern, its slang. people from Mass. say "aint" too (loads of people). Its just poor english, not a regional thing.
I was just listing stuff, as someone who has family in both the South and the North I could hear it in the way people in the Mid-Atlantic talk (DC/MD...
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I agree, even in NY/NJ you can hear the Southern a little (not in everybody though), I hear words like "ain't", "gon" (gonna), etc. but in a different accent or a mixed New York/Southern accent.
My parents said those things and they were born in 1920. It has many origins in ...
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My parents said those things and they were born in 1920. It has many origins in the Irish, Italian, etc., immigrant communities of NYC. My family, and those I knew in the neighborhood, were 1st and 2nd generation Americans. The had absolutely NO history with the South. If you want me to blunt ...
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Its not even really that its how some sentences are put together, then not everyone in NY talks like that, I could hear the Southern influence in some NYers speech.
You can hear every single accent, and language, spoken in NYC because people move to it from every corner of ...
Quote: Originally Posted by TexasReb I still think this was one of the very best ever done on the "cultural regions" of the South.... http://i485.photobucket.com/albums/r...91/south-3.jpg In my opinion, the dark blue in Texas needs to extended maybe 2 or 3 tiers of counties to the left.
Quote: Originally Posted by Unstable The census may be "really old" but it's the only government agency that's been doing this for a long time. Everything else is just opinion. You do know that the Census Bureau is the basically the only govt. agency/dept that classifies MD/DC/DE as Southern. The FBI, FTA, FAA, DOE, EPA, FWS, NPS, etc. all classify Maryland in either Mid-Atlantic or Northeastern regions.
Quote: Originally Posted by Unstable No, DC is in the South. The Mid-Atlantic is in the Northeast; is it a subregion, not a region Below the mason-dixon yes, but DC is generally perceived as the beginning of the northeast. I have never understood why NY, NJ and PA were considersd mid-atlantic when they are not geographically in the middle of the east coast. To me mid-atlantic is a geographic area that encompasses MD, VA, DC, DE, and parts of...
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Quote: Originally Posted by ajf131 I have no idea what you see as Southern in the New York accent. That accent sounds far more like New England than it does any part of the South. In Maryland, there are Southern dialects present, but they are not the dominant dialects. Maryland feels and culturally resembles Pennsylvania today more than it does Virginia. I didn't really mean accent I meant the way some people put sentences together and...
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Quote: Originally Posted by jluke65780 Agreed. I've never seen that map before. Good find. I agree with 95% of it. The other 5 relates to the state of Fla. The color of Florida or even transition not only needs to be extended. it needs to cover the entire state. Try telling people in Belle Glade and Clewiston they are not in the South. In fact, visit those areas and tell me they are not in the South.
Quote: Originally Posted by MrMcCoySays So? Just because VA was technically a part of the Confederacy makes it more southern than south Illinois? Little Egypt is closer to Miss., Louisiana, and Texas than VA is. And wasn't Maryland part of the Old South too? Good basis for your argument but at the same time VA is closer to Carolina, Georgia than south Illionis because they are southern states on the eastcoast also. Also VA is surrounded...
Quote: Originally Posted by Infamous92 I agree, even in NY/NJ you can hear the Southern a little (not in everybody though), I hear words like "ain't", "gon" (gonna), etc. but in a different accent or a mixed New York/Southern accent. "ain't" isnt southern, its slang. people from Mass. say "aint" too (loads of people). Its just poor english, not a regional thing.
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