Thread: Interesting Take On Gnostic Texts

Quote: Originally Posted by NuGnostic you could get the correct ones as quoted by me and decided upon by indepenant scholars. Your dates: "Thomas as old as AD 200 matthew,mark and luke were in use by about 100ad,John perhaps as late as 120ad." I didn't disagree You have at least 80 years worth of gap there. Looking at those dates, the oldest Thomas is no earlier than 200 A.D.. The newest John is no later than 120 A.D. Until...

Quote: Originally Posted by NuGnostic But your scholars were of very dubious positions,why don't I just go ask the pope. You just went waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay way waaaaaaaay out in left field there.... I am talking about the early Church, you know folks that belonged to Chruches started by Paul and the like? Quote: scrapping the barrell are we?face it you lost. What's this? The 5th time you've declared victory? : laughing :...

Quote: Originally Posted by Nineveh Well, if you presuppose people 300 years removed have more info than eye witness accounts, then yeah, we can't have a rational discussion about it. well no... i presuppose that Jesus himself is a myth, so no gospel has any more authority than another.

Quote: I am sure your scholars agree on this point too, just as mine do not. But your scholars were of very dubious positions,why don't I just go ask the pope. Quote: Ok, then, don't say it scrapping the barrell are we?face it you lost.

Paul, i don't buy into Gnosticism either once again, know what you're talking about before you talk, okay?

Quote: Originally Posted by Nineveh And please stop spamming the thread Thanks in advance If you don't like my style I'll just leave your lame thread to it's lameness and brighten another with my presence.

Quote: Then there is the God Who remains Faithful. But alas,the scripture doesn't remain faithful to him.

Quote: Originally Posted by Nineveh noguru, I've found a link for you concerning the canon Thank you Nineveh, I appreciate your effort. I am posting a portion of the text which I find to be the main point of this whole debate. Quote: The Authority Relationship Between Church and Canon Incorrect Vew Church determines canon Church is the mother of canon Church is the magistrate of canon Church is the regulator of canon Church is the judge...

Quote: Originally Posted by NuGnostic Who's saying they're athiests, they could be christian,they just rely on archaelogical evidence.That's a very biased attitude. You expect me to believe that people who try to discredit Christianity are Christians? I might have been born at night, but it wasn't last night. Quote: But you rely on catholic scholars,and councils. No, I don't. Quote: Yes you do No, I don't. Quote:...

Quote: Originally Posted by Nineveh noguru, I am not finding any information that implies Judas was included with the Dead Sea Scrolls. What I have found is this however, it's dated to around 300 AD, although Irenaeus denounced it even earlier in 180 AD. cite Yes, thanks. Here is a quote I found. Quote: The problem was the 'bad provenance', its obscure origin. Tchakos and Roberty told Ferrini that farmers discovered the books in...