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Thread: Insurance, banking, automobile, healthcare...now airlines

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by involuntary_serf
First the Bush (then Obama) administrations decided they wanted to be in the insurance business (AIG), then the banking and mortgage businesses (Fannie and Freddie), then the automobile business (GM), then the energy business (electrical grid plans and alternative energy "investments"), next up is the healthcare industry of course...but now it's time for the airline industry *: Quote:...
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NoahJ replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by involuntary_serf First the Bush (then Obama) administrations decided they wanted to be in the insurance business (AIG), then the banking and mortgage businesses (Fannie and Freddie), then the automobile business (GM), then the energy business (electrical grid plans and alternative energy "investments"), next...

KingOfSomewhereHot replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Boy I can't wait to hear the consumers bitsh if that actually happens!!! The airlines were regulated before... (deregulation happened in 1978)... since dergulation, ticket prices have plummeted, frequency on routes has skyrocketed... in short air transport within our country got cheap and plentiful (it also started treating passengers like they were on a bus, but the passengers still buy ...

Hands Sandon replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Airlines are basically giving you a lift in their cars and charging you for it. The planes keep getting stuck in traffic jams and figure that's costing them money. So they appeal to the government to build some new roads and add in fancy new (much clearer) road signs. The government says "will do but some of you guys have to start looking after your vehicles better, no more bangers and no more ...

KingOfSomewhereHot replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Hands Sandon Airlines are basically giving you a lift in their cars and charging you for it. The planes keep getting stuck in traffic jams and figure that's costing them money. So they appeal to the government to build some new roads and add in fancy new (much clearer) road signs. The government says "will ...

Hands Sandon replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by KingOfSomewhereHot Do you REALLY think that even vaguely resembles reality ??? Yes, very closely. The government wants better trained pilots and better serviced planes because some of the smaller budget companies are employing pilots without sufficient training and flying planes that ...

involuntary_serf replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Hands Sandon Yes, very closely. The government wants better trained pilots and better serviced planes because some of the smaller budget companies are employing pilots without sufficient training and flying planes that aren't up to scratch. The government does? Or maybe it's the ...

Hands Sandon replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by involuntary_serf The government does? Or maybe it's the bigger, less competitive, unionized airlines (along with their unions) that want this? Its always wise to look very carefully at who stands to gain. It's not always who you think, and it is often actually not the consumer. What you might ...

involuntary_serf replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Hands Sandon That could well be the case but you have to admit that the extra training of these pilots is a good thing. No? I actually don't know that. We all assume such things, but maybe not. Maybe it only adds cost but doesn't add real value and doesn't really improve safety (which is...

Hands Sandon replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by involuntary_serf I actually don't know that. We all assume such things, but maybe not. Maybe it only adds cost but doesn't add real value and doesn't really improve safety (which is the assumed goal here). Let's turn this around. Do you think that airlines have any incentive to ensure that their flying ...

KingOfSomewhereHot replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
See... I can't blame YOU for not really knowing anything about this... I'm assuming you're not an airline pilot. But the quotes you're pulling out here are themselves extremely misleading. Apparently, you would be surprised at the amount of training and experience required to get yourself into a pilot's seat at a major airline. Most people (apparently) don't have the desire or stamina to get ...

 

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Hands Sandon
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Insurance, banking, automobile,...
Published (2009-11-15 20:21:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by KingOfSomewhereHot You need to understand how airlines work. Specifically with regards to ALPA (and other unions) and the idea of a seniority list... So you don't deny that if it takes an FO 1500 hr's of flying time to work for an airline then it's much much less likely that they'll make an FO a Captain shortly after getting their 1500 hr's of flying time. As to Prater, he does have a point...
involuntary_serf
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Published (2009-11-15 10:35:00)
Maybe the Obama administration is a remake of "Planes, Trains and Automobiles": Federal oversight of subways proposed : Quote: The Obama administration will propose that the federal government take over safety regulation of the nation's subway and light-rail systems, responding to what it says is haphazard and ineffective oversight by state agencies. Quote: "After the [Metro] train crash, we were all sitting...
KingOfSomewhereHot
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Published (2009-11-15 19:52:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by NoahJ You sound like you have pilots training or actually fly. Is this the case? This is the case. Unlike most subjects I pontificate about on here , this one I happen to actually know a bit about.
NoahJ
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Published (2009-11-15 15:45:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by KingOfSomewhereHot No, they can't. It's as simple as that. Already trained for. Really! I can also state that this bill will not have ANY effect on safety within the airline industry. I KNOW that. It may, in some cases, make it much more difficult for smaller carriers to do business... (ulterior government motives?) ... but it won't have any effect on safety. (Despite what J. Prater says, he knows...
Frank777
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Published (2009-11-16 11:13:00)
So Obama wants to manage the airline industry and takeover subway systems from the states. In the meantime, the Russian President is going in the opposite direction . The world is upside down.

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