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Thread: Incompatible goals...

Started 1 month, 1 week ago by Larry Gude (Premo)
Has anyone asked this of a lefty, yet? "If you get the 'public option' and start to cut into the profits of insurance companies, what happens to the people they fire when they start to cut costs to deal with the loss of income?" I mean, the issue to independents, to most people, actually, is jobs, jobs, jobs. Socialized medicine designed to cut costs WILL cost jobs. It just will.
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kwillia replied 1 month, 1 week ago
On a side note, I received an EOB from my insurance company for routine lab work done during a physical. The lab charged $205.00 total. The insurance company paid the "agreed to" amount for each line item which ended up totaling $48 and some odd change. The EOB said "patient was not responsible to cover the difference". Now here's the deal... if I didn't have insurance, I'd be completely ...

SamSpade replied 1 month, 1 week ago
I have, and they skip right over that point, because "insurance companies are the enemy". One liberal friend suggested they adopt a non-profit approach to remain in business. For the life of me, I keep looking at this issue, and fundamentally, insurance companies are not the cause of the problem. At least not in the sense that health care itself does not follow at all the normal model on ...

kwillia replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by kwillia On a side note, I received an EOB from my insurance company for routine lab work done during a physical. The lab charged $205.00 total. The insurance company paid the "agreed to" amount for each line item which ended up totaling $48 and some odd change. The EOB said "patient was not responsible to cover the difference". Now ...

SamSpade replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by kwillia then why the hell are they charging uninsured Joe-Schmo $205 for the same work? I still think THIS is where a lot of needless overhead comes into play. If I totalled all of the totals of lab work done for my family, it would easily come close to the amount I pay per year. And that's because the doctor can order ten ...

SamSpade replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by kwillia What about what I posted... those paying out of pocket are paying triple what the insurance company has to pay for the same things. True, but if everyone paid out of pocket, it would go down. Insurance companies are able to do that, for the same reason BJ's can sell you a big box of diapers for half price, or that Wal-...

kwillia replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by SamSpade True, but if everyone paid out of pocket, it would go down. Insurance companies are able to do that, for the same reason BJ's can sell you a big box of diapers for half price, or that Wal-Mart can beat out McKay's - volume. See... I disagree that the prices in the medical industry will go down. If everyone was paying out ...

ylexot (Premo) replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by kwillia What about what I posted... those paying out of pocket are paying triple what the insurance company has to pay for the same things. I'm not sure that is true. Sure your insurance company didn't pay that much, but maybe that's because of your particular insurance company (HMOs get discount rates at doctors in their ...

ylexot (Premo) replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by kwillia See... I disagree that the prices in the medical industry will go down. If everyone was paying out of pocket, there would be less demand for services. The only industry I see that lowers prices to drum up business is retail. And they only lower key products in order to draw the consumer... raising prices of other products to ...

kwillia replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by ylexot Supply stays the same, demand goes down = prices come down. I liken it to the oil industry where the recent spike in oil prices have now raised the bar as to what they are now willing to accept as their "happy minimum". Prior to the hike fiasco, they were estatic to see $50 a barrel! Now they are saying they can't "afford" ...

chernmax (Premo) replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Larry Gude Has anyone asked this of a lefty, yet? "If you get the 'public option' and start to cut into the profits of insurance companies, what happens to the people they fire when they start to cut costs to deal with the loss of income?" I mean, the issue to independents, to most people, actually, is jobs, jobs, jobs. Socialized ...

 

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Published (2009-11-09 09:25:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by ylexot Doesn't GE make a bunch of medical equipment that could make that a reality? Hmmmmm.... You know what, there is an AWFUL lot of basic medical care that could be handled right at home.
PsyOps
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John Stossel's "Sick in America". Watch all six parts if you want to know what we can come to expect here.
kwillia
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Published (2009-11-06 09:47:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by ImnoMensa Does anyone who works for the Government now and has their insurance subsidised , really believe that if that government has it's own insurance, that they will continue to subsidise your policy with a private company. If you do you are crazy. When the Government institutes their own policies, you as a government employee will be on that policy. you can bet your ass on that one. The Government option...
bcp (Premo)
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Quote: Originally Posted by PsyOps This also worries me because I am on TriCare. I am certain TriCare recipients will be the first forced on the "Public Option". What worries me is that as soon as the government gets ahold of it, affirmative action is going to go into hyperdrive when it comes to who gets to be a doctor. Just cant wait till they tell me my new doctors name is Jamal Saddam Mohommad Khaddafi.
SamSpade
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Published (2009-11-08 01:41:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Alexa While I do believe there are those that embrace the health care model Canada and England provide, it doesn't mean that the everyone on the left supports it. In fact if you speak to many lefties, you will hear an array of models being put forth as an example. I believe the French model is the most revered. And if anyone right or left looks at those models, then private insurance isn't something that...
MMDad (Premo)
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Quote: Originally Posted by Larry Gude Light bulb moment! Outsource it; We'll be on the phone with India having someone talk us through taking our kids appendix out... 'No, no, no. I said vwe[rfvngwq[ernq[erba[fevq[er[afsd'vbkafd'gaietrn'eav" You: "I can't understand a word you are saying. Can you put me through to someone who speaks english?" Them "Speaking english to you I...
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Ther are several Nurse Practitioners practicing under Medical Doctors in St. Mary's County right now , and some of them are reported to be excellent. However I dont know that any of them are placed in charge of terminal patients after hospice has been notified as this bill calls for. Mine gave me colchechine for gout and it worked, but even I could have written that prescription if I were allowed to do it. Some things are pretty easy to...
itsbob (Premo)
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Quote: Originally Posted by ImnoMensa Ther are several Nurse Practitioners practicing under Medical Doctors in St. Mary's County right now , and some of them are reported to be excellent. However I dont know that any of them are placed in charge of terminal patients after hospice has been notified as this bill calls for. Mine gave me colchechine for gout and it worked, but even I could have written that prescription if I were allowed to...
ylexot (Premo)
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Published (2009-11-09 09:23:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Larry Gude Light bulb moment! Outsource it; We'll be on the phone with India having someone talk us through taking our kids appendix out... 'No, no, no. I said vwe[rfvngwq[ernq[erba[fevq[er[afsd'vbkafd'gaietrn'eav" Doesn't GE make a bunch of medical equipment that could make that a reality? Hmmmmm....
Alexa
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Published (2009-11-05 20:27:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by kwillia On a side note, I received an EOB from my insurance company for routine lab work done during a physical. The lab charged $205.00 total. The insurance company paid the "agreed to" amount for each line item which ended up totaling $48 and some odd change. The EOB said "patient was not responsible to cover the difference". Now here's the deal... if I didn't have...

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