Building a mild street car that will be somewhat of a daily driver and I'm looking for an ignition upgrade.
Question:
1) Anybody using a Procomp 6-A ignition amplifier and if so, any problems.
2) Is MSD that much better than Procomp to justify the price? _________________ 83 stang, 306;energizer cam, old edelbrock F4B intake, Holley 600, T5...soon to be stroked
depends on what you want.
i run an msd6 off road, it see's plenty of abuse, it developed a internal short that drained the battery when it sat overnight.. i called msd to help trouble shoot the problem and they offered to out right replace it almost two years after the warrenty had ended..
you will not get that from pro comp.
i doubt one product is better than the other they ...
So, what all is involved in the duraspark conversion. _________________ 83 stang, 306;energizer cam, old edelbrock F4B intake, Holley 600, T5...soon to be stroked
Correction, the engine i am working with is already equipted with a duraspark II set up. So i guess i need to know if the aftermarket box is worth the money vs the amount of performance i'll get...and like stated, other than the "pop the hood factor" and see all the cool stuff. _________________ 83 stang, 306;energizer cam, old edelbrock F4B intake, Holley 600, T5...soon to be stroked
My experience with MSD is the opposite of KsK.
Mine blew out in a bout 9 mos. MSD would not replace of fix it.
I have ran a procomp now for over 2yrs with no problems. _________________ 1966 Stang Coupe Org. 6 cyl. 393w,Forged Trw, ARP bolts,Total Seal rings,H-beam rods,Balanced,Hedman long tubes, Pro Comp 2.05/1.60 Heads, Shaft roller Rockers, Victor Jr intake, Holley 750 DP, Ed ...
forthman really..? wow
it was about 8 years ago they replaced mine..
if thats the way there doing business now then its not worth it.
puremuscle, the HEi conversion is really simple, has a couple 0f nice advantages.. one of the best is the auto dwell control that lets you run modern E-core type coils like the ford tfi coil with the duraspark.
take a look at this from our tech...
I really liked the HEI converstion. It worked great and was cheap.
I recommend it.
Ya, MSD is not what they once were. The units now i think are made in China.
When mine went it just plain burned the board so bad it was junk.
I sent it back and they said well just able to repair and offered not New unit or any thing.
Was very disappointed as I at the time had heard ...
I guess with the current economic times alot of places are cutting back. With that said I'm still a MSD fan. The current ignition in my 79 is all MSD with most of the add-on's for timing/cranking retards,window switches(yeah, I bought it all right before they came out with the Digital boxes...) and it's all worked great with no issues.
If I have to replace it in the future I'll probably go ...
KSK, let me get this right. In my case where i'm simply putting together a mild 83 daily driver/street car, that is already carbed, the HEI upgrade will do nicely. I looked at the conversion and i does appear very simple. My only questions are:
1)Should I run another switched hot wire to the coil to bypass the ballast resistor, unless you know where it is located.
2)How much better is the ...
if you have a resistor or resister wire it is best to by pass it..with the hei module.
the modern E core coils have better winding ratio's than the old oil bath coils..(ie higher voltage output) ..msd claims their replacment tfi coils are better than ford's and that the ford coil is limted above 5000 rpm..
i don't know about that may just be marketing.
but over all yes it is a ...
Went to the zone and priced the parts to make the conversion. All new stuff for under $45...way better than the cost of a Procomp or MSD box. Thanks for the advice. I'll be converting this weekend. _________________ 83 stang, 306;energizer cam, old edelbrock F4B intake, Holley 600, T5...soon to be stroked
Went to the zone and priced the parts to make the conversion. All new stuff for under $45...way better than the cost of a Procomp or MSD box. Thanks for the advice. I'll be converting this weekend. _________________ 83 stang, 306;energizer cam, old edelbrock F4B intake, Holley 600, T5...soon to be stroked
if you have a resistor or resister wire it is best to by pass it..with the hei module. the modern E core coils have better winding ratio's than the old oil bath coils..(ie higher voltage output) ..msd claims their replacment tfi coils are better than ford's and that the ford coil is limted above 5000 rpm.. i don't know about that may just be marketing. but over all yes it is a better performance ignition than a stock duraspark...
I have a MSD dizzy and 6AL box, no issues with either. I got amazing jump in spark power by switching to Crane 91LX E type coil. It's wound for current increase as opposed to voltage increase. It works with inductive and CDI systems. Can easily run .060 plug gap, but went back to .050 because it hits so hard at that gap that it erodes even Autolite electrodes prematurely. When I first installed the coil I didn't have the coil wire...
My experience with MSD is the opposite of KsK. Mine blew out in a bout 9 mos. MSD would not replace of fix it. I have ran a procomp now for over 2yrs with no problems. _________________ 1966 Stang Coupe Org. 6 cyl. 393w,Forged Trw, ARP bolts,Total Seal rings,H-beam rods,Balanced,Hedman long tubes, Pro Comp 2.05/1.60 Heads, Shaft roller Rockers, Victor Jr intake, Holley 750 DP, Ed Nix Custom .650/.650 300/304-268/272@50 cam solid roller...
I guess with the current economic times alot of places are cutting back. With that said I'm still a MSD fan. The current ignition in my 79 is all MSD with most of the add-on's for timing/cranking retards,window switches(yeah, I bought it all right before they came out with the Digital boxes...) and it's all worked great with no issues. If I have to replace it in the future I'll probably go with their Digital type set-ups....
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