Yes. Use widely supported lossless format like PNG if need to do multiple edits. Aristoc wrote: > I have photoshop 6. After editing a photo and opening and saving it several times as a JPEG/JPG am I going to lose some data/quality from the photo? >
AwkwardSwine wrote: > Yes. Use widely supported lossless format like PNG if need to do multiple edits. > Aristoc wrote: > > I have photoshop 6. After editing a photo and opening and saving it several times as a JPEG/JPG am I going to lose some data/quality from the photo? > > I recently deliberateloy did 10 edits to a jpeg Level 8 image file and saved each time until I got to the 10th. I ...
Timskis6 wrote: > I'm certain there is a difference, especially if enlarged. Hi Tim, I was doing a search for the images and found you had requested what I was about to do! The edited one was via using a little darkening to midtones - only slight, so that would be the only difference between the first below (original crop) and the last (No 10 crop) using Save As for all the 10 edits and the ...
Zone8 wrote: > A colleague and I, years ago, tested the claims about loss through multiple saves and we concluded it was somewhat a myth. It's not a myth. If you view the two images using software that subtracts one from the other, you WILL see differences. But whether or not you can actually see them depends on the subject material and how you view the image. For example, viewing an ...
Funny, I have done exactly the same thing and found that the loss of quality was unacceptable. Zone8 wrote: > > AwkwardSwine wrote: > > Yes. Use widely supported lossless format like PNG if need to do multiple edits. > > Aristoc wrote: > > > I have photoshop 6. After editing a photo and opening and saving it several times as a JPEG/JPG am I going to lose some data/quality from the photo? > ...
phototext wrote: > Funny, I have done exactly the same thing and found that the loss of quality was unacceptable. One obviously has to post images suitable for the web but in all my (and colleagues) testing, we based decisions and results on printed output - meaning A3+ and there is definitely NO loss in terms of comparison with prints from different stages. Anyway - you can make your own ...
Agree totally with your findings, sure if you continue beyond 10 , say to 30 there will be a difference, I've carried out similar tests at a camera club with others taking part and results concur with yours, we even did the old raw/jpg comparison for quality and again no difference (that anyone would put money on) in prints. Carl
the theory says that if you resave a jpeg enough times you get a image degradation. why would you do this enough times to make an issue of it? i shoot jpeg all the time, well 99.9%, and never have a problem with the image quality of jpegs. what i do is bypass the issue altogether by simply doing a save as a tiff after any pp and sharpening. all future work is done to the tiff, the jpeg is never ...
As one extra comment. In the "good old days" my 286 computer (Wow) had 2 MB RAM (the extra 1 MB cost me a fortune) and at that time, I had the second largest hard drive - largest was 80 MB (just then introduced and way out of my price range) so I opted for the 40 MB one. I think everyone used (from memory) DriveSpace or Stacker to get that massive 40 MB up to a whopping 67 MB (approx). The ...
I never use in-camera jpegs - always work from the RAW file. Perhaps that has a specific bearing on what others get compared to what I get? However, read on as I find his (Andrew Kelsall) methods unacceptable. I certainly do not see the degradation shown in that article. I would also suspect his problem was saving at different jpeg levels, which he mentions. I can certainly believe a loss when someone is daft enough to save at different...
Yes. Use widely supported lossless format like PNG if need to do multiple edits. Aristoc wrote: > I have photoshop 6. After editing a photo and opening and saving it several times as a JPEG/JPG am I going to lose some data/quality from the photo? >
Not quite true. ianR wrote: > Yes, jpeg is a lossy format but that doesn't mean it MUST lose data, only that it will prioritize file size over accuracy if you want it to. It does lose information, no question of that. However, the lost information may not be visible. > The more you compress the more data is lost, not the more times you resave. It really only becomes noticeable around about the 87% mark though, whatever that...
Congratulations. If you cleaned installed Win7 then you could've partitioned the drive in the beginning. Or could've just installed and then manipulate the partition afterwards. Two hours to intall Win7 itself?
I definitely get different results here. On the left a cropped portion of a jpg straight out of a Canon 500D (L jpeg quality). On the right the same portion after some editing (1 pixel crop to the original), saving, closing, opening the newly saved and re-applying the process for 10 times. jpeg quality was set to 90% for each iteration. Quality loss is obvious: artifacts, false colors, less detail etc. Especially shadows suffer a lot....
Compression technologies used by stacker, or more recent compression algorythms like zip or rar are *lossless* algorythms. You can compress and then expand files using these algorythms a billion times over, the resulting file will still be 100% identical, bit for bit, to the original. The jpeg compression algorythm is a *lossy* algorythm. It's /designed/ that way, in order to achieve higher compression rates. It's designed...
Agree totally with your findings, sure if you continue beyond 10 , say to 30 there will be a difference, I've carried out similar tests at a camera club with others taking part and results concur with yours, we even did the old raw/jpg comparison for quality and again no difference (that anyone would put money on) in prints. Carl
the theory says that if you resave a jpeg enough times you get a image degradation. why would you do this enough times to make an issue of it? i shoot jpeg all the time, well 99.9%, and never have a problem with the image quality of jpegs. what i do is bypass the issue altogether by simply doing a save as a tiff after any pp and sharpening. all future work is done to the tiff, the jpeg is never touched at all. the original jpeg is simply put...
Yes, jpeg is a lossy format but that doesn't mean it MUST lose data, only that it will prioritize file size over accuracy if you want it to. The more you compress the more data is lost, not the more times you resave. It really only becomes noticeable around about the 87% mark though, whatever that relates to in the program you're using. The more you compress the smaller the file size you get at the end and that's the real proof...
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