Spotted this blip on my radar this morning.
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Plans for a mainline railway station linking Heathrow airport to the rest of the national rail network, including a high-speed rail link to the Channel tunnel line, are to be outlined to Ruth Kelly, transport secretary, today. The scheme is being promoted by Arup, the civil engineering consultant, which ...
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Originally Posted by Parkey
Spotted this blip on my radar this morning.
Does anybody know more about this?
The more I have read about transport policy of late the more I think we are destined for some good news. Everyone on the site knows that large scale transport projects are not a short-term...
More good news would be an announcement of electrification of the GWML and the MML. HS2 to Birmingham and Manchester, HS3 to Cambridge, Nottingham and Sheffield. Abandonment of the diesel IEP. Most importantly, phase 2 of the Nottingham tram system.
Get them all started so abandoning them would mean a terrible waste of public funds and then leave the Conservatives to pick up the bill....
Didn't they build extra platforms incase new lines were to connect to Terminal 5? Ie I just assumed they would use those.
Also, no-one seems to care if the government wastes public money. Over £50m was spent on Leeds Supertram between 2000 and 2005 and look what it came to.
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Originally Posted by Leeds No.1
Didn't they build extra platforms incase new lines were to connect to Terminal 5? Ie I just assumed they would use those.
I think those are planned for Airtrack. I think the plan is Heathrow Express trains will continue beyond T5 to Staines on a mile or so of new track. There...
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Originally Posted by cle
I did see that the GWML western access plans suggest an HSR-like route/loop from T123 to T5 and then sweeping up to the GWML west of West Drayton.
This instead of building a western curve at the top of the tunnel, symmetrical to the curve today from Hayes - which I would have thought much easier? T5...
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Originally Posted by Parkey
I think those are planned for Airtrack. I think the plan is Heathrow Express trains will continue beyond T5 to Staines on a mile or so of new track. There will also be trains using the same new line to Heathrow from Reading and Waterloo.
The spare T5 platforms are suited to suburban trains. ...
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Originally Posted by Parkey
I think those are planned for Airtrack. I think the plan is Heathrow Express trains will continue beyond T5 to Staines on a mile or so of new track. There will also be trains using the same new line to Heathrow from Reading and Waterloo.
The spare T5 platforms are suited to suburban ...
I did see that the GWML western access plans suggest an HSR-like route/loop from T123 to T5 and then sweeping up to the GWML west of West Drayton.
This instead of building a western curve at the top of the tunnel, symmetrical to the curve today from Hayes - which I would have thought much easier? T5 could remain a terminus and there would be much less tunnelling.
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Originally Posted by cle
I did see that the GWML western access plans suggest an HSR-like route/loop from T123 to T5 and then sweeping up to the GWML west of West Drayton.
This instead of building a western curve at the top of the tunnel, symmetrical to the curve today from Hayes - which I would have thought much...
It's true, sadly - LHR isn't centralised like AMS or FRA sadly, so this would always be a limitation. If we had one big station around the new proposed T6, interchanging with a loop from the GWML, passengers for T1-5 (4 and 5 especially) would still need to jump on a train of some sort for the remainder. Crossrail will probably be best for delivering people directly to the terminal they need - it needs to be marketed as a seamless...
Quote: Originally Posted by cle I did see that the GWML western access plans suggest an HSR-like route/loop from T123 to T5 and then sweeping up to the GWML west of West Drayton. This instead of building a western curve at the top of the tunnel, symmetrical to the curve today from Hayes - which I would have thought much easier? T5 could remain a terminus and there would be much less tunnelling. Would this still work if the 3 runway was in...
Quote: Originally Posted by Leeds No.1 Didn't they build extra platforms incase new lines were to connect to Terminal 5? Ie I just assumed they would use those. I think those are planned for Airtrack. I think the plan is Heathrow Express trains will continue beyond T5 to Staines on a mile or so of new track. There will also be trains using the same new line to Heathrow from Reading and Waterloo. The spare T5 platforms are suited to...
The 2 replies above are what I was getting at. Those travelling from Europe would be able to get to central England without having a torturous change in London or having to fly. A lot of people would use it instead of driving, either to Heathrow or the North. That takes cars of the roads, especially the M25 where, between the M3 and the M1, it's just people travelling towards the north of the country.
I want to run trains from Paris to Birmingham as well eventually. it just makes a lot more sense to me to go through London. We've got Ebbsfleet - St. Pancras; now build Euston - Heathrow - Birmingham and just link it all up. All these other options require a lot more track to be laid and don't take away the need for a high speed rail link from London to Birmingham, so you might as well use the existing HS1 plus HS2 to get those...
This has been debated on the main HS rail thread. Even the Conservative/Arup plans would involve passengers transferring for a hub. It wouldn't be within walking distance of the airport. Anyway the former Transport Secretary Brian Mawhinney has been asked to look at the Heathrow connection in more detail. No definitive decision has been made.
As I see it, an on-site station will only be able to serve one of the three terminal areas (ignoring 'terminal 6'), so in order to reach the other two some kind of transfer will be needed. I can't see many people caring whether this transfer is 5 minutes from (say) the central terminal area, or 15 from Old Oak Common, seeing as total journey times will probably be within 5-10 minutes of each other as Heathrow HS2 trains will...
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