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Thread: Health Care Bill - predictions

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Morkenlar
Anyone care to predict what will happen now that the Senate is combining the various bills? I predict the Baccus bill gets dragged to the left, with a public option added, and has less than 50 votes in favor. I then predict that they pass a lesser version without the public option, and try to add it back when they reconcile the House and Senate versions. Whatever happens, the administration...
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Ersiusp replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
What part of it would/could be unconstitutional?

Kayso Gnomehater replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
1. I predict people who complain about the costs won't object to much greater wastes of money and resources that fit their politics and most likely won't pay a cent more in taxes despite all of their complaining. 2. I predict any bill that doesn't make insurance executives cry will be an ultimate failure. 3. I predict we won't crack the top 10 in vital health care benchmarks in the next ...

vizco replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
What part of it would/could be unconstitutional? I wonder about that, too. Given that Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid all exist, how could anything related to health care be unconstitutional? (Not the original Constitution, but the precedents and such.) Frankly, I can't think of anything that's actually unconstitutional, given the erosion of the document over the years....

Cinabre replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Ersiusp wrote: What part of it would/could be unconstitutional? As written, it falls nowhere in the original Constitution. Some will argue that it "promotes the general welfare" but you need only look at Thomas Jefferson's thoughts on that to see that the framers did not mean to give Congress broad power in that area. Thomas Jefferson: "Congress has not unlimited ...

Lujack Dhrakoth replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I predict a victory in 2012 for Obama.

Zitoh replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
-Employers wont be able to afford it, so more layoffs and continued higher unemployment, and more small business failures. -Final Bill when passed will be full of pork and other garbage that the American people will find out about when its too late. -Massive tax increases to pay for government mismanagement that will have the program broke (see Social security). -a new "czar" will be ...

zeist prexus replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
- We get universal health care that doesn't cost us any money. - Unlimited free energy and energy-to-matter converters are created. - People don't have to work, but do whatever they enjoy doing. Yet everything still seems to get done. - We stop using money, and instead turn to "credits" or gold-pressed latinum for the rare occasions where it's required.

Lujack Dhrakoth replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Ooo, I like Zeist's predictions. Does that mean we will have to deal with greedy Ferengi, instead of greedy republicans?

Klark replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Lujack Dhrakoth wrote: Ooo, I like Zeist's predictions. Does that mean we will have to deal with greedy Ferengi, instead of greedy republicans? Come on, that's nothing but a baseless stereotype. The Ferengi part, not the Republican part.

Lujack Dhrakoth replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I know, I know, the Ferengi really don't get the respect they deserve.

 

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sapiens soultracker
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user's latest post:
Health Care Bill - predictions
Published (2009-10-28 06:42:05)
Well why didnt the republicans fix it under Reagan, Bush 1 or Bush 2? None of them were Fiscal conservatives?
vizco
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Published (2009-11-03 18:15:57)
Again, they can do something that no other private company can do for the same price. How would we know? Private companies aren't allowed into that market. The USPS isn't subsidized by the government, it's required to not lose money (which is one reason that postal rates go up constantly). It's because the guy(s) who make(s) the decisions now isn't going to benefit from that 20-year payout. I don't blame the...
Graz Tundrawolf
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Published (2009-11-03 19:11:42)
Thymiak wrote: Care to explain how having like 5 post offices within a 5 minute drive from where I live is efficient? I could walk to 3 different ones in an hour's time in the middle of the country here. That's rhetorical right? Obviously cutbacks in government services are almost impossible. Between turf wars, over protective elected types and union protection, a cut back is nearly impossible.
Morkenlar
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Published (2009-11-03 09:41:19)
As for the single program that could be considered efficient: USPS. Private enterprise, for all the capitalist hoorah can't get a small pack of paper across the country in the same time at that price. You've got to be kidding. You call the Post Office efficient? Fedex has avoided layoffs by reducing pay, limiting overtime, freezing hiring, and it's still hurting too. I don't think an entity has to be in the black at the...
Kayso Gnomehater
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Published (2009-11-03 18:08:06)
We're quibbling over the word "efficient". This is one of those pointless definition arguments like deciding what "MVP" means in sports. My point was that the USPS does something any other private company is unable to do. I'll concede that might be a narrow view on the term efficient. Sure, it's not unreasonable to consider profitability as one measure of efficiency, but it wasn't my...
Lujack Dhrakoth
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Published (2009-10-22 20:57:58)
>> pays for health care for the elderly. We already have a government system (Social Security disability) that pays for health care for the disabled. And end stage renal disease patients...don't leave us out!!! Why don't they just make medicare availlable to all. Costs me $100/month (no prescriptions), and its about as good as my BCBS, and between both of them, I dont have to pay any medical costs and I got lots..
Cinabre
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Published (2009-11-03 04:14:36)
The USPS is woefully inefficient, overburdened by regulations, and beholden to unions. While I was home on R&R, one of the morning news shows did an interview with the head union rep at a USPS facility in Houston. His problem was, despite repeated protests, the post office where he worked kept anywhere from 6-20 people in the break room all day doing absolutely nothing. They wouldn't/couldn't fire them, yet they had no work...
Ersiusp
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Published (2009-11-03 02:58:10)
I know a guy who works for the USPS and brags how he finishes his route in 4 hours, then sleeps for 3 more before going back to the post office. From what he says, this is fairly common. I realize it's only an anecdote, but I find the thought of the USPS being a lean, efficient, machine highly doubtful.
Blackedward
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Published (2009-10-21 04:14:17)
And wouldnt a doctor and nutrition advise on and individual level work bette than telling people "Just say no... to fat"? Heck, how about grade school health assemblies... Shoveling fast food down the gullet is not healthy. Shoveling too much food down the gullet is not healthy. Parental and personal responsibility could go a long way to fighting obesity in my opinion. -Ed
Falkahnhan
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Published (2009-10-24 14:16:53)
What do you think your link shows, other than that the most QOLY enhancing thing you can do is buckle your seat belt? We must make not wearing your seat belt while driving a/riding in a vehicle illegaler!

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