Thread: Health Care

SumPeepul wrote: Panama Hank wrote: So yes, the Senate could propose legislation "fixing" health care so long as they didn't have to come up with money to pay for it. They could even have done that...the Constitution specifically says that they can amend a a revenue bill, and they could have added revenue for anything they wanted. Really? Where does it specifically say that?

Republican Senator and diaper enthusiast Vitter: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) will get exactly the 60 votes he needs to pass healthcare reform legislation through its first test tomorrow, Sen. David Vitter (R-La.) said Friday. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/68835-vitter-predicts-reid-will-get-exactly-60-votes-on-first-health-test

Not according to Democratic Party leadership, unless the term 'universal heatlh care' means something completely different than I think it does. And I will eventually die in Diane Lane's bedroom. Do you believe that too? We can't even get Congress to pass health care -- which has already made dozens of concessions to Republicans that guarantee that this will be far from single payer. So how, Chuck, do you think they are...

MacDak wrote: But haven't we been told, over and over, by the Republican sympathizers among us, that that a great sin of the Democrats is that they follow their leaders mindlessly, in lock-step? Hey, That's Pelosi's problem at this point. It's not the republican's problem. And it's not as if Democrat symps haven't told Republicans that the great sin of Republicans is to follow the neo-con base in lock-step,...

DECEMBER 9, 2009 Senate Democrats Reach Tentative Agreement on Health Bill WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats reached tentative agreement Tuesday to abandon the proposed government-run health insurance plan at the heart of the Senate's sweeping health overhaul legislation, as part of a broader compromise aimed at speeding action on the White House-backed initiative. Capping several days of high-stakes negotiations, a group of ten Democratic...

Yeah, yeah, yeah ... But how about that dangerous Palin book tour? Scary stuff, eh?

True, Hank, but arguing that the Democrats could have enacted universal health care doesn't exactly rebut the contention that conservatives have blocked it. The two aren't, and certainly haven't been historically, diametrically opposed. At times and in certain persons they've overlapped. I would point out that Congress has enacted a number of health care reforms since WWII. That's how we got HMOs...

JustLis wrote: Apparently you're having trouble understanding the same statement repeatedly, Hank..... Well yeah, Lis, repetition doesn't work for me. I need logic, truth, and sanity. YMOV.

Why? And by what authority? The Constitution? Where does the federal government get off deciding that the states are doing a good enough job? All 50 states are doing an inadequate job? Says who? And who do lefties think the federal government will make it better? Where is the evidence of this? Or is it just a power grab by the federal government and the left?

The drug companies can afford to give such a small country a break. This would be relevant if Canada was the only country that received this break. The reality is that most of the rest of the world also receives similar breaks.