Wondering how many people are running either the Haltec or the Pro-Efi EMS. I will be switching over to standalone this winter from the Utec and these are my options for the power i'm going for. Both systems are proving themselves over and over again from moderate to heavily modded builds.
Any information on why you chose the EMS you did and the key factors in your decisions would be much ...
yo chose your EMS based on the availability of tuners for that platform.
On paper they are about the same, but the more proficient your tuner is, the more power you'll make saftely, regardless of EMS.
So I vote Haltech bc I have forged and even IP closeish.
I understand that the two are very similar, and my tuner has tuned and like both.
However i'm more concerned with the smaller things, for instance the Fcon isn't an option because of all the add ons you need to buy to get it to function like these two. So for two systems such as these where most everything is inclusive within the unit to begin with, i'm looking for the stats of who's using ...
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
yo chose your EMS based on the availability of tuners for that platform.
What about people whom tune their own car? I'm planning on upgrading from my UTEC this winter also and I want the EMS that is the most user friendly so I spend the least amount of time figuring ...
No its not a black art.
and I never said peak power, I just said power, which means the entire powerband, partial throttle etc... Of course tuning WOT is easy. You only have a few cells to monitors
The UTEC is as simple as they come. Few parameters = easy. I had a UTEC and now a Haltech. The haltech has soo different params witho no indication of what values should ...
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Originally Posted by tmarcel
Kinda hard to make a vote on this without being one-sided I've got pesonal experience with the Haltech 350Z/Platinum though and can at least give you some pros and cons.
What I like: Interface - easy to navigate
Fullly customizable tables
Generous table resolution
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Originally Posted by str8dum1
No its not a black art.
and I never said peak power, I just said power, which means the entire powerband, partial throttle etc... Of course tuning WOT is easy. You only have a few cells to monitors
You said "more power". You didn't say powerband or ...
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Originally Posted by Glex25
Proefi is a locked system just like Fcon
only tuners has access to their parameters
suprised no one has mentioned that
just based on that my choice is Haltech
I had the Proefi and now have the Haltech.
If something goes off and you troubleshooting over the phone with
your ...
HAHAHA, your responses always cheer me up. Always to the point.
Why would you spend 1000$ more for the Haltech is you were not going to use the options like speed based boost and cam timing
RCDash has stated before that closed loop tuning is not that easy to do (which you claim is easier than a UTEC)
You are apparently very intelligent so why even bother being on ...
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Originally Posted by tmarcel
Kinda hard to make a vote on this without being one-sided I've got pesonal experience with the Haltech 350Z/Platinum though and can at least give you some pros and cons.
What I like: Interface - easy to navigate
Fullly customizable tables
Generous table resolution
...
Quote: Originally Posted by rcdash The true definition of a "piggyback" should be one that takes a stock ECU signal, modifies it, and sends it along. In this scenario the aftermarket EMS is dependent on the stock ECU for the source data. Garbage in, garbage out though; hence the poor rep that "true piggybacks" have. The aftermarket EMS systems that offer completely independent (de novo) throttle, fuel, timing, and cam...
Thats the same way I feel about the Haltech. Competent tuners close by play the final role, just like I said in post #2. I would love to see how it all ties together when you are completed as the ProEFI has some great features.
Quote: Originally Posted by SoundPerformance I have the DBW working on a Z right now! Having DBW I think would be helpful to have in the EMS for idle stability (without having to do copy through for timing) and for not having to employ work arounds for the VDC cutting in with traction control (tied into the brake lamp signal, yaw sensor, etc) when on the track. On the other hand, I like having the stock VDC and the TCS active while daily...
Quote: Originally Posted by IslandZavage For those of you that have the PROEFI, Do you have the 48 or the 128 (aside from price)? What was the deciding factor for your selection? I have the 48 PIN unit. However, for me the factor unfortunately was price. I would love to have the additional features of the 128 PIN unit for track use and hope to upgrade to it eventually. But I experienced some financial hardships after I got scammed by SGP on...
Quote: Originally Posted by rcdash All are relatively small companies and the products have proven themselves. Based on feature set alone, I would consider the ViPEC 88 at this point as well. From what I can tell, the Haltech does have the largest development team as well as great USA support by Injected Performance. The updates have been impressive and v1.06 is no exception. I will only speak to deficiencies with the system I know well, the...
I can't comment on the haltech, Vi Pec, or HKS ecu's on the VQ platform but I can say this. I run one of the largest fuel systems on a street car on this forum (3 walbro's in tank, garden hose feed lol, 1000cc injectors on large rails)...and I'm going to larger injectors over winter (for even more room on E85)..... The Pro-EFI 48 controls everything, and the car drives just like stock. I don't have any stumbles,...
Motec has it too ^, via a separate add on module. I looked heavily into it when doing the ITB project, as I was going to have it controlled via the drive by wire, but ended up not going ahead
i undersatnad what youa re saying but its all semantics, dont loose focus on the technical side...its standalone because what it controls it doest takes over it completly, the fact that the stock ecu is still there is because there is no reason to reinvent the wheel on simple things liek accessories control or some other drivability settings already stablished by nissan that took lot of money and research ...and that make no difference in...
From what Larry just said and from what was mentioned earlier, a big concern for many of us and especially me is the OBDII being retained to pass inspection. So the 128 was said earlier to eliminate the OBDII and Larry just stated that it will retain the OBDII. Will the 128 operate as a piggyback with all the bells and whistles and still allow people to pass inspections with the OBDII system? Second of all these features that pro-efi has are...
Quote: Originally Posted by rcdash Having DBW I think would be helpful to have in the EMS for idle stability (without having to do copy through for timing) and for not having to employ work arounds for the VDC cutting in with traction control (tied into the brake lamp signal, yaw sensor, etc) when on the track. On the other hand, I like having the stock VDC and the TCS active while daily driving, so I don't know how much DBW really is...
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