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Thread: Grant and Rawlins

Started 2 months, 1 week ago by Rebelrose
Forum, John A. Rawlins, chosen by Ulysses S. Grant to be his chief of staff on November 1, 1862, "had to diffuse doubts about Grant's competence and sobriety", according to Peter Cozzens, author of Shenandoah 1862: Stonewall Jackson's Valley Campaign . Cozzens also suggests that Grant's victories at Missionary Ridge and Vicksburg would not have happened without Rawlins. (These ...
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unionblue replied 2 months, 1 week ago
Background on U.S. Grant. U. S. Grant, The Myth of His Drinking . http://faculty.css.edu/mkelsey/usgrant/alcohol.htm l Fine website sources about U. S. Grant. http://www.empirenet.com/~ulysses/ http://faculty.css.edu/mkelsey/usgrant/ IMO Rawlins has been overblown by Cozzens and has ignored or not fully been aware of some historical references that would show Rawlins was...

Ellsworth avenger replied 2 months, 1 week ago
Peter Cozzen's point in referance to John Rawlins not being at least mentioned in Grant's memoirs,thou he had been rewarded with a corp's command and position of secretary of state,does suggest a resentment of sort, held by Grant while sitting on Mount McGregor. "It appears that mankind in this life are not agents for eternity, but that they will eternally remain ...

Horace Porter replied 2 months, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Ellsworth avenger Peter Cozzen's point in referance to John Rawlins not being at least mentioned in Grant's memoirs,thou he had been rewarded with a corp's command and position of secretary of state,does suggest a resentment of sort, held by Grant while sitting on Mount McGregor. "It appears that mankind in this ...

M E Wolf replied 2 months, 1 week ago
Name RAWLINS, John Aaron Born February 13 1831, Galena IL Died September 6 1869, Washington DC Pre-War Profession Lawyer, city attorney. War Service August 1861, Capt., aide-de-camp and assistant adjutant to U.S. Grant, Maj., Lt. Col., August 1863 appointed Brig. Gen. of Volunteers, March 1865 Brig. Gen. in Regular Army. Brevet Promotions Maj. Gen. U.S.V. February 24 1865, Maj. ...

cash replied 2 months, 1 week ago
See the John Rawlins thread. Cozzens is incorrect. Regards, Cash

Rebelrose replied 2 months, 1 week ago
M E Wolfe, Thank-you for the detailed posting from the Official Records. Please bear in mind I have no knowledge of military "lingo" or military positions, etc. I have a question re: the Assistant Adjutant-General's duties. Since this position entails the writing and publishing of orders for the Commanding General, making written instructions and transmitting them, etc., who oversees...

Rebelrose replied 2 months, 1 week ago
unionblue and cash, Thank-you for the websites re: Grant, and the thread re: Rawlins. I'll check them out for further information. Rebelrose

Ellsworth avenger replied 2 months, 1 week ago
Thanks all, I am enjoying new reads. Does general Warren have a valid point in describing John Rawlins"a personal coward in danger,but a bold liar and firm believer in the value of a lie".

ole replied 2 months, 1 week ago
Where did you find that, Ellsworth? The quote is new to me. Ole __________________ If we don't survive as a free people, no one will. I'm thinking this is what Lincoln was thinking, but the quote is from a talk by Bruce Herschensohn, a professor at Pepperdine.

M E Wolf replied 2 months, 1 week ago
RebelRose, ma'am; The Official Records of the Rebellion were gathered once hostilities ended and were taken to the War Department to be filed and cataloged. When General Robert E. Lee wished to gather information, as to write--Colonel Taylor came to the War Department and saw for himself that the records he signed as AAG to General Lee was not tampered with in any way. He was ...

 

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M E Wolf
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Published (2009-11-04 02:19:00)
O.R.--SERIES I--VOLUME XLVIII/1 [S# 101] APRIL 27, 1865.--Loss of the Steamer Sultana in the Mississippi River, near Memphis, Tenn. No. 3.--Report of Bvt. Brig. Gen. William Hoffman, U. S. Army, Commissary-General of Prisoners. OFFICE OF THE COMMISSARY-GENERAL OF PRISONERS, Washington, D. C., May 19, 1865. SIR: Pursuant to your instructions of the 30th ultimo, I proceeded direct to Memphis, Tenth., and Vicksburg, Miss., to inquire into the...
Rebelrose
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Published (2009-11-05 05:32:00)
Leah, Yes, I must agree with you when you said you were most impressed with the friendships that developed between former enemies, in spite of the viciousness of the war. I remember looking at pictures of some of the reunions held between the veterans of the Union and the CSA , and how respectful they appeared to be toward one another. One picture in particular was extremely poignant, to me, that showed the veterans shaking hands across a...
K Hale
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Published (2009-11-05 18:18:00)
Yep, that is the one I was thinking of. I will look tonight and see if it's in one of my Grant books and if it identifies the kid. Rawlins was a nice looking fellow. __________________
Horace Porter
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Published (2009-11-04 21:59:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by prroh Are you saying the orphans were issue from the second marriage? When was he buried in Arlington? The web site for the cemetery says that the interrment date is unknown. I believe I'm saying Rawlins remarried.
prroh
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Published (2009-11-05 17:57:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by K Hale I know the photo you're talking about, and I could swear I've seen it in some book which said the girl was his stepdaughter. I don't recall if the woman was the first or second wife. The picture was taken beside a cabin at Grant's HQ in City Point. This would place it between OCT 1864 and March 1865. Rawlins first wife died in 1861. http://www.old-picture.com/civil-war...ns-General.htm
Leah's Choice
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Published (2009-11-04 00:16:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by unionblue "The love that knew no name," as I believe it was referred to at the time. Unionblue Well, that's a whole lot more polite than some of the names we have for such relationships these days, enlightened creatures that we are. I can imagine that was pretty shocking. I wonder if Grant was aware of that relationship?
Severon
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Published (2009-11-05 14:27:00)
Definitely not a common inscription on a tombstone. __________________ Severon, Civil War Researcher.
Ellsworth avenger
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Published (2009-11-03 11:09:00)
Sorry Ole,should have been back to thread sooner great reads. Warren's quote on Rawlings character is given by David m. Jordan in his book "Happiness is not my companion":The life of General G.K. Warren on page 236.
cash
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Published (2009-11-04 00:31:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by K Hale Wait, WHAT? Not that there's anything wrong with that, but... for real? I thought you were speaking figuratively. Don't ask, don't tell. Regards, Cash
ole
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Published (2009-11-05 17:21:00)
Kinda uncomfortable with the topic. Gramps lost his first wife and two children in the early 1890's. That sort of thing happened a lot back then. He was close to 50 when father was born. Father's twin brother also died before he was a year old. No wonder he was a nut-case. Four doting older sisters. C'est la vie. __________________ If we don't survive as a free people, no one will. I'm thinking this is what Lincoln...

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