Thread: Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and other claimants to the Throne 3; June 2008 -

Here is the full itinerary of the July visit of Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna to Russia and Belarus: Press Release On the Official Visit of the Head of the Russian Imperial House

I wonder what has prompted Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna to pester the Russian government with legalities concerning the untimely death of Nicholas II and his family as well as what compensation she expects from the Russian government.

From a practical point of view, few Russians are aware of Maria Vladimirovna or the Romanov Family Association. There is little desire or momentum for a restoration or even any kind of recognition, such as what was done in Romania and Serbia, for ANY member of the family. From the strictest viewpoint of the Pauline Law, both Maria and Nicholas would be disqualified from the succession as dynasts. Although Vladimir ruled the Bagrations were...

Quote: Originally Posted by Marsel Some legal experts think that the motives of Maria Vladimirovna’s appeal are quite clear: if the murders are re-classified as political assassinations, the Romanovs (especially those who are directly descended from or closely related to the murdered Romanovs) will be entitled to compensations – and bearing in mind just who the assassinated people were, rather impressive compensations. Ah! I was wondering...

Maria Vladimirovna has apparently ordered her lawyers to appeal the decision of the Russian Courts to close the murder case of Nicholas, Alexandra and their children. According to a press release, the Romanov Family (that is, Maria Vladimirovna, her mother and son) does not agree with the verdict on principle and will insist on re-opening the case. The Russian courts pronounced the deaths of members of the Imperial Family were murder and the...

Wow. The Grand Duchess certainly had a busy trip!

Very unlike the Queen to bow to anyone except heads of state (and then I cannot recall if and when), the Pope or a crowned sovereign such as the king of Greece or Queen Beatrix) . I cannot see her bowing to Prince Nicholas but he of course would bow to her as a crowned sovereign. Just my thoughts

Ok, I'm sorry; I've read in Greg King's biography of Empress Alexandra Feodorovna that Orthodox Church didn't recognise the wedding because of they were cousins, and the same was made by the Czar; only some year later he restored Kirill in all his titles and honours, but only for him and not for Victoria. About Prince Alexander of Yugoslavia, he married two Catholic women; so his descendants can be considered as pretendants...

Quote: Originally Posted by Russophile No Warren, my darling Peter did not write that, that came from Robert Massie's "The Romanovs: The Final Chapter" and it is, like you said, HM bowed out of courtsey and not to acknowledge him as head of the IF. Massie it is then. At the risk of repeating myself, HM did not "bow", she stood. What actually occurred was established when this urban myth was first...

J Kenrick: >>The statement by Marie Vladimirovna's lawyer German Lukyanov also makes it clear: "As far as the authenticity of the Tsar's remains found in the Urals in 1991 and 2007, the House of Romanov will rely on the position of the Russian Orthodox Church."<< Both sides are in agreement to wait. AGRBear