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Thread: Got yelled at for jerking dog's chain

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by BurleJohnson
Hi, I'm new here. I decided to look for solutions to a problem I'm having with my 11 month old puppy. She is a large, lab/doberman mix, about 65lbs - a big girl but truly a puppy. She walks very well on a leash and respects my commands to sit at curbs, heel (more or less) and people comment on how well behaved she is. That is, until she sees another dog. She will pull at the leash, squat ...
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Keechak replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
why treat free?

RBark replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I'm not sure why you want a treat-free solution. Are you under the mistaken belief that treats are "bribing" or something like that? Training with treats, toys, etc are the best way. Jerking the dog's chain like you did is the best way to get a leash reactive dog.

MissMutt replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
So, what do you need help with? The neighbor or the training? Why are you looking for a treat-free solution? Contrary to popular belief, using treats in training isn't going to spoil your dog, nor is it simply "bribing your dog" to do something. You need to make yourself more interesting that other dogs. You need to teach her to leave it, watch you, and continue moving despite ...

BurleJohnson replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Thanks for your response, actually I'm not sure I can manage the neighbor any better than the dog at this point. Anyway, my dog and I have been through training class with a highly respected local trainer (John's Natural Dog Training) that trains without treats, so that's why I prefer not to use them. However, I am motivated to correct this particular situation in a more positive way than just ...

Keechak replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
if your dog is play driven you could also use a tug toy to train. does your dog like to play tug of war?

BurleJohnson replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Yes, she loves playing tug of war, but how would I use this as a training method?

Keechak replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
When She does a behavior you like reward her by playing tug with her. carry around a little tug toy with you when you go for walks. Keep the tug sessions short, about 20 seconds. and then take it away from her and tell her another command and then whehs he does it play tug again. and then at the ends of all your training play tug with her for at least 2 minutes. It works wonderfully to ...

TxRider replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I wish either of those methods would work for me. Works awesome for Kaya, not at all for Hope. Try the toy, if she has one she really really likes. Or that you can get her to really really like. As for the neighbor, why even talk to them, I would have told em to mind their own business and walked away. It's not like the cops would have done more than ignore her for something silly like ...

canteloupe replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by BurleJohnson Thanks for your response, actually I'm not sure I can manage the neighbor any better than the dog at this point. Anyway, my dog and I have been through training class with a highly respected local trainer (John's Natural Dog Training) that trains without treats, so that's why I prefer not to use them. However, I am motivated to ...

wvasko replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by BurleJohnson Thanks for your response, actually I'm not sure I can manage the neighbor any better than the dog at this point. Anyway, my dog and I have been through training class with a highly respected local trainer (John's Natural Dog Training) that trains without treats, so that's why I prefer not to use them. However, I am motivated to ...

 

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wvasko
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Got yelled at for jerking...
Published (2009-11-09 14:54:00)
You mean my mind reading program was a month late. I'll have to work on that. You do realize saying go might not have been the proper way to go about it. It sounds like you gave a release command. No big deal though, just keep working and all will be good.
Cracker
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Published (2009-11-08 22:05:00)
Canteloupe, Your idea is very similar to mine..teaching focus on the handler so that the handler has control of the behaviour of the dog. Focus is key in teaching a dog anything, I just find the name game more efficient in the beginning because our human reaction to most anything our dog does (especially if it's not something we want) is to use their NAME first..lol. I think it's easier for the human to learn, which makes it easier...
TxRider
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Published (2009-11-09 16:06:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by wvasko You mean my mind reading program was a month late. I'll have to work on that. You do realize saying go might not have been the proper way to go about it. It sounds like you gave a release command. No big deal though, just keep working and all will be good. Yeah she has a release command I use when I use a "leave it" it for food, or to break her sit and cross the threshold out the door,...
BurleJohnson
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Got yelled at for jerking...
Published (2009-11-08 22:09:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by wvasko Ok What is "John's natural training" can you explain what his methods are. When you gave jerk on lead and yelled did your puppy yelp what was pup's reactions. I'm asking, not to chastise you, just trying to find out why neighbor went off on you. If there was no yelping of pup your neighbor is a complete idiot. If there was a yelp because you were trying to control your pup...
Keechak
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Got yelled at for jerking...
Published (2009-11-08 17:02:00)
When She does a behavior you like reward her by playing tug with her. carry around a little tug toy with you when you go for walks. Keep the tug sessions short, about 20 seconds. and then take it away from her and tell her another command and then whehs he does it play tug again. and then at the ends of all your training play tug with her for at least 2 minutes. It works wonderfully to get her to watch you.
canteloupe
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Got yelled at for jerking...
Published (2009-11-08 21:52:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Cracker Why do you feel the need to dismiss anything that can make behaviour mod and training more pleasant for ALL involved, that has been used successfully in these situations and that makes for SAFE training with less potential fallout as an "agenda"? That's what I was wondering, too. I don't think sparkle's use of the word "agenda" makes sense. Cracker, what do...
sparkle
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Published (2009-11-08 22:43:00)
[quote=Cracker;666293]Okay..that's just too funny. LOL It's "BE the Moose" you silly goose. The idea is to use a dog's natural drives (as predator) to encourage interaction with the handler...then to use the human's ability (as a MOOSE..lol) to stop the dog by being a force (like a moose that WAS running away but suddenly turns and looks you in the eye, that is likely to stop YOU dead..lol) of energy and...
pmster
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Published (2009-11-09 07:23:00)
ya, I have a friend that has a 2 year old german shephard, who pulled on leash alot, practically taking her arm off at times, she used the 'leave it command' as well. still does. Also she will be walking her, and if echo pulls on leash she will stop and when echo is stopped and calmed down she will walk again. This can take a bit of time getting anywhere but with patience and consistancy echo is doing really well on the leash.
emily445455
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Got yelled at for jerking...
Published (2009-11-08 19:50:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Keechak why treat free? I wondered the same thing. Treats are always a good alternative to physically making them listen to you. I'd teach the leave it command.
dakotajo
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Got yelled at for jerking...
Published (2009-11-08 20:29:00)
classes never helped for my dog or being around alot of dogs period, she would just get even more super excited the next time she saw them and yes, she is very dog reactive on walks (in a nice way) The Leave It command has been the best thing to teach my dog! How helpful it has been and she learnt it in a matter of minutes. She's getting alot better walking with a leash without all the pulling and I have to admit I stopped having a tight...

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