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Thread: Global all time highs in Gold

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Vibr8gKiwi
Gold is hitting all time highs across multiple currencies. Anyone who can look at that 10 year chart in the above article given our current situation and think that gold falls in a deflationary environment has rocks in their head. Gold predicted the current environment when woke up out of its multi-decade bear market a few years ago. It loves this environment.
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jumanji0881 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Gold at both ends of the economic K Wave Excerpt: Risk aversion is on the rise since the credit crisis and investors must look to those assets which tend to benefit from fear. Gold is of course the chief beneficiary of fear and has the added feature of being a hedge against a hyper-deflationary environment. Hyper deflation will be the order of the day in 2012-2014 when the ...

Rivers replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
With that senerio (hyperdeflation) Cash would do well (Cash would be King) or not???? Actually I see a weak dollor as an invitation to foriegn investors to buy our stock and bond market. I think we will see both higher commodity prices and higher stock market prices.

redqid replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I kind of like what David Einhorn said recently: "I have seen many people debate whether gold is a bet on inflation or deflation. As I see it, it is neither. Gold does well when monetary and fiscal policies are poor and does poorly when they appear sensible. Gold did very well during the Great Depression when FDR debased the currency. It did well again in the money printing 1970s, ...

hidendragen replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
real economic growth as from 1980 to 2000, so people invest real money into market than gold. Higher interest rate due to inflation as in 1970 to 1980 will demand even higher gold price. From year 2000 to now, there isn't any real economic growth. All the artificial growth are came from Fed money printing and near 0% interest rate. Gold knew all this, so gold goes up from $250 to ...

dmorse replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Exactly my theory on most assets. A story begins developing which attracts initial interest in an asset. Early adopters spot the trend shift or know the cycles. Many doubting thomases. The story builds and attracts more people... yet many still doubt. Eventually, the asset gets to a certain level where it gets more and more attention. At that point, everyone and their brother ...

redqid replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Interest rates went up in the 1970s due to inflation. The next time interest rates go up it will be a loss of confidence. Entirely different scenario. A pop in interest rates would crush money supply. Gold may still do okay if it comes back in style. But the people I know in gold are in GLD not physical. That makes me nervous as I wonder more and more whether GLD is simply a fancy ...

redqid replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Good post. I have too often ignored the story, and then I am surprised when something runs higher than it should. These days, I have it in my checks.

hidendragen replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Interest head up will be due to real inflation, not loss of confidence. If it's due to loss of confidence, there will be more money pile into gold.

redqid replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I mean loss of confidence in fed to control rates. Do you remember when oil was going up and everyone called it inflationary? When oil went from $60 to $140 in 18 months it was deflationary. Too much too fast. If interest rates rise quickly, it would be viewed as inflationary short term, but impact would be deflationary as it would crush lending. Of course, gold could go up for the...

jumanji0881 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Actually I see a weak dollor as an invitation to foriegn investors to buy our stock and bond market. Imagine the impact on the Federal debt in a deflationary period. Private debt can be eliminated through bankruptcy and default, but the Federal debt would explode much higher. The bond market is vulnerable to a precipitious jump in rates even in a deflationary period simply ...

 

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Global all time highs in Gold
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I think this recession has a long way to run. And one big problem that poses is that the government will continue to try to stimulate the economy with more spending. We are already hearing that based on the 10.2% unemployment. I listened to Rosenberg this AM on Bloomberg radio. He pointed out that household debt is at 130% of incomes, down from 140%, but up from the norm of about 60-80%. He thinks it will take 5 years for consumers to get...
redqid
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Global all time highs in Gold
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I mean loss of confidence in fed to control rates. Do you remember when oil was going up and everyone called it inflationary? When oil went from $60 to $140 in 18 months it was deflationary. Too much too fast. If interest rates rise quickly, it would be viewed as inflationary short term, but impact would be deflationary as it would crush lending. Of course, gold could go up for the next 10 years regardless of what else happens. All it takes...
hidendragen
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Global all time highs in Gold
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Interest head up will be due to real inflation, not loss of confidence. If it's due to loss of confidence, there will be more money pile into gold.
Vibr8gKiwi
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Global all time highs in Gold
Published (2009-11-06 17:32:00)
Gold is hitting all time highs across multiple currencies. Anyone who can look at that 10 year chart in the above article given our current situation and think that gold falls in a deflationary environment has rocks in their head. Gold predicted the current environment when woke up out of its multi-decade bear market a few years ago. It loves this environment.
dmorse
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Global all time highs in Gold
Published (2009-11-06 23:05:00)
Exactly my theory on most assets. A story begins developing which attracts initial interest in an asset. Early adopters spot the trend shift or know the cycles. Many doubting thomases. The story builds and attracts more people... yet many still doubt. Eventually, the asset gets to a certain level where it gets more and more attention. At that point, everyone and their brother wants in. Asset has a blowout rally/top... boom... crash... the...
Rivers
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Global all time highs in Gold
Published (2009-11-06 21:48:00)
With that senerio (hyperdeflation) Cash would do well (Cash would be King) or not???? Actually I see a weak dollor as an invitation to foriegn investors to buy our stock and bond market. I think we will see both higher commodity prices and higher stock market prices.
thunderone
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Global all time highs in Gold
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unemployment to 20% ? already ABOVE that in several EU nations. riots ? demonstrations ? protectionism ? currency intervention ?

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