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Thread: Getting scared about drivability

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by rmcelwee
My build is still a while out at this point but I am gathering info and making plans. Our local Miata club attended a car show a couple of weeks ago and although I was not there a few of my friends were and they told me a new member (I have not met him) was explaining that he had an LS1 Miata and sold it because it was horrible to drive. I don't think (from the explanation they were giving) he ...
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Chuck75 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Did you notice if the conversion was "throttle by wire" (electronic) or the older scheme of accelerator pedal cable to throttle body and a TPS sensor? The cable scheme can require a cable cam profile change, and the full electronic throttle control ECU programming changes. Depending on the mechanical linkage to the accelerator pedal, things can be simple or complex to change. Perhaps ...

Tyrod replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
You could also go with a higher (numerically lower) rear gear ratio.

Guido replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
He,s crazy. Like anything that has a throttle, the driver should be in control. Some people can and do get in serious trouble with 100 hp. Knowing your driving skills and limits is a huge factor controlling any motorized vehicle. If you have disipline, it will not be a problem for you. It sure isn,t for me, and many other mature drivers on this site.

Vettedrmr replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
You don't have anything to worry about. There are a bunch of reasons that could cause those kinds of comments: 1. driver incompetence: just didn't have the skills to drive a high performance car. A MX5/LS-1 (stock) isn't going to be that different than a C6 Z06 from a power/weight standpoint 2. bad alignment 3. bad tires or tires too small 4. dead suspension I'm sure there are ...

unk577 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I have driven an NB with an LS6 using V8Roadsters kit that was making 37X @ the wheels. The car was running a 225/50/15 on a 15X8. Traction was not a problem. As long as you're smooth with you're inputs you should be fine, though there is enough power to brake them loose at will if you chose to. A hard run to 120mph was extremely quick and kept you pinned in the seat, no traction problems.

LS2 V8 Miata replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Serious Cars frighten a lot of average people, with little "performance" experience and rightfully so. Along with Great power, comes Great Responsibility as they say. I have been through most major driving schools and have now or had performance driving and competition licenses with SCCA, NASA and ProAutosports. For any Safe, uneventful outting I always have to use my skills and of course, ...

ZX-Tex replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
+1 nothing to worry about. Your friend's friend was either messing with him, has a heavy foot, or is seriously lacking in driving skill. It is like any fast car. Treat it with respect and you will be OK.

modracer33 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I have not yet driven a 400+hp Miata. But have driven 550+ hp stock cars weighing in at 2,600 lbs and running 6:1 rear gear ratios with a munci 4 speed. You couldn't go 10 feet in first gear before you needed to change gears. I aways thought it was fun to be under caution in 3rd gear on the front stretch, punch (not mash) the pedal and light up the tires... Anyway, I guess some people ...

gpangrac replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I'm at ~350rwhp and couldn't be happier with how the car drives. It all depends on how you treat the "GO" pedal.

cvx_20 replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Is the "Red Beast" in your sig yours? if so, you should have no problem. It factors in at 8.3 lbs/hp, the "typical" LS1 conversion at 2700 lbs or so and a conservative 325 hp is exactly the same. FWIW, I have a bone stock 93 Tbird motor that happens to have a rather quick uptake on the throttle. At first, I was a little concerned, but I soon got used to it. Always good for a laugh when one ...

 

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MV8,Mstr ASE/A&P/FCC
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user's latest post:
Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-07 06:38:00)
All I'm saying is, there is no reason to assume that the programmed response curve of a throttle by wire system is going to be the same between a truck ecm and a corvette ecm.
jmsj578
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Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-07 06:29:00)
Driven with some sense, my 442rwhp LS6 Miata drives like any other Miata. It's all in how one uses the throttle. Mine has Toyo T1 245/45r16 tires that are soft enough for traction and hard enough to act a fuse to prevent breaking the 7.5 inch rearend. I'm not really fond of the throttle by wire; but, it seems to work OK. I'm often asked how one drives a little car with that much power; and, I tell them I drive it like I'm...
rmcelwee
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Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 05:37:00)
My build is still a while out at this point but I am gathering info and making plans. Our local Miata club attended a car show a couple of weeks ago and although I was not there a few of my friends were and they told me a new member (I have not met him) was explaining that he had an LS1 Miata and sold it because it was horrible to drive. I don't think (from the explanation they were giving) he was running any more power than just a stock...
Chuck75
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Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 06:20:00)
Did you notice if the conversion was "throttle by wire" (electronic) or the older scheme of accelerator pedal cable to throttle body and a TPS sensor? The cable scheme can require a cable cam profile change, and the full electronic throttle control ECU programming changes. Depending on the mechanical linkage to the accelerator pedal, things can be simple or complex to change. Perhaps amusing is the current tendency of car...
Tyrod
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Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 07:10:00)
You could also go with a higher (numerically lower) rear gear ratio.
Guido
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Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 07:26:00)
He,s crazy. Like anything that has a throttle, the driver should be in control. Some people can and do get in serious trouble with 100 hp. Knowing your driving skills and limits is a huge factor controlling any motorized vehicle. If you have disipline, it will not be a problem for you. It sure isn,t for me, and many other mature drivers on this site.
Vettedrmr
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user's latest post:
Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 08:28:00)
You don't have anything to worry about. There are a bunch of reasons that could cause those kinds of comments: 1. driver incompetence: just didn't have the skills to drive a high performance car. A MX5/LS-1 (stock) isn't going to be that different than a C6 Z06 from a power/weight standpoint 2. bad alignment 3. bad tires or tires too small 4. dead suspension I'm sure there are others, but my point is that you need to treat...
unk577
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user's latest post:
Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 08:48:00)
I have driven an NB with an LS6 using V8Roadsters kit that was making 37X @ the wheels. The car was running a 225/50/15 on a 15X8. Traction was not a problem. As long as you're smooth with you're inputs you should be fine, though there is enough power to brake them loose at will if you chose to. A hard run to 120mph was extremely quick and kept you pinned in the seat, no traction problems.
LS2 V8 Miata
1
user's latest post:
Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 10:33:00)
Serious Cars frighten a lot of average people, with little "performance" experience and rightfully so. Along with Great power, comes Great Responsibility as they say. I have been through most major driving schools and have now or had performance driving and competition licenses with SCCA, NASA and ProAutosports. For any Safe, uneventful outting I always have to use my skills and of course, common sense everytime I drive my...
ZX-Tex
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user's latest post:
Getting scared about drivability
Published (2009-11-06 10:39:00)
+1 nothing to worry about. Your friend's friend was either messing with him, has a heavy foot, or is seriously lacking in driving skill. It is like any fast car. Treat it with respect and you will be OK.

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