Thread: Frozen liquids at the checkpoint experiences
Started 1 month, 1 week ago by BubbaLoop
I am going to be in the US for the next few weeks, and will have the chance to test the new ice policy. I openly admit I am going to take frozen stuff to the checkpoint to test if this is a celebrity-only rule and question the silliness of the whole thing. ...
sounds like a good idea (and personally, i think more pax should test the "ice nonsense") but i think frozen shampoo might be a bad choice as it is technically a gel and not a liquid and imho, that one would lose. i'd actually want to see "the test" done exactly the same way with a cup of ice and see what happens as if denied, then you...
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Originally Posted by goalie
sounds like a good idea (and personally, i think more pax should test the "ice nonsense") but i think frozen shampoo might be a bad choice as it is technically a gel and not a liquid and imho, that one would lose. i'd actually want to see "...
I like the idea of freezing shampoo because it is rather silly, and illustrates the silliness of the whole rule. I am also quite sure its not something seen at the checkpoint every day. I have done a "test freeze" and it does get totally solid, and lasts quite some time without thawing.
We'll see how it goes. I have quite a few ...
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Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
I like the idea of freezing shampoo because it is rather silly, and illustrates the silliness of the whole rule. I am also quite sure its not something seen at the checkpoint every day. I have done a "test freeze" and it does get totally ...
I guess I will have to make do without the t-shirt, although it would certainly be fun. I will take note of names, but I don't think I will try recording. As a foreigner, I feel it may put me into a bit too much trouble for my comfort.
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Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
I guess I will have to make do without the t-shirt, although it would certainly be fun. I will take note of names, but I don't think I will try recording. As a foreigner, I feel it may put me into a bit too much trouble for my comfort....
Hmm, do you think this means ice cream can be taken through the checkpoint now? This is actually going to be relevant to me in a couple weeks as I am going to visit family and would love to bring some of my favorite ice cream in the world along, without checking bags.
(Jeni's ice cream in Columbus, for those who are curious)
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
In any case you do need to print up the blog post and keep it with you. This way if they try to push the "interfering with a screener" crap you have an out.
Already done.
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Originally Posted by Trollkiller
In any case you do need to print up the blog post and keep it with you. This way if they try to push the "interfering with a screener" crap you have an out.
Sadly, it will be a very limited 'out'. The TSO will just ...
Quote: Originally Posted by iahphx Is it true that ice is OK? I don't see a rule for it. A few months ago, I had a soft-sided mini cooler (insulated lunch bag) with some food in it and I stuck a large ziplock bag in the cooler to at least keep the food cool until I got to security. I forgot to remove the ice. No problem! Since then, for curiosity's stake, I've usually thrown in some ice when I've packed food (at least 3 or...
Quote: Originally Posted by AngryMiller Would you have ever thought, though that in order to do an end run around a silly government policy, that freezing your shampoo would ever be required? I work for a governmental agency in South America. I have vast training in doing ridiculous things to circumvent absurd policies. Even so, the policies within the US sometimes amaze me, and frozen shampoo is most definitely a first.
Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaLoop Hey all, Sorry I disappeared. Just spent a few days offline. Today is the last day of my all-American frozen shampoo trip. I decided, however, not to freeze my shampoo since it is still half full and I have to check in again and change terminals in a later flight today, at which time my shampoo would of course no longer be frozen solid. I checked it instead, but took a frozen water bottle along for the...
Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaLoop I like the idea of the frozen liquids site/blog, but I don't do most of my flying within the US, so I am probably not the best person to launch it. Maybe we should think of a collective FT project of this sort. Frozen pumpkin filling in a can (or any other canned good, for that matter) is a great idea! If I have time, I'll get some for my next flight, and add it to the frozen shampoo and water...
Quote: Originally Posted by goaliemn On some things.. the TSA will let me bring my zippo onto a plane. CATSA "made me surrender" my zippo.. They have the same 3-1-1 rules, and afew other annoyances. Zippos are allowed. Torch lighters are not permitted. When was your zippo "surrendered"?
Quote: Originally Posted by Mr. Gel-pack Well, what some dude posted on some Flyertalk forum would probable be even less dispositive than the fluff PV on the web with a http://www.tsa.gov/... They think it is simple to "use common sense" and "just follow the rules", but when their rules are secret, conflicting, and nonsensical, it gets complicated. The fact that an alleged TSO (TSORon) posted on this site...
Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaLoop (the supervisor this morning actually said "let her through, the line is backing up") [sarcasm]But isn't security, not efficiency, supposed to be the number one priority at a checkpoint?[/sarcasm]
Quote: Originally Posted by dan1431 There may be another reason for the lack of detection, they (the TSA) judge liquids by density and by freezing the liquid the density changes and the operator may be unable to differeniate between a solid and a liquid. If the frozen liquid was in an odd shape or looked like something "dangerous", it may still result in a bag check and disovery, but probably not because of liquid...
Quote: Originally Posted by BubbaLoop So today things got a bit more interesting. I was carrying my frozen shampoo and a frozen water bottle. X-ray officer stopped me and said I would have to toss the bottles. I asked why. He says liquids are not permitted over 311 quantities. I said the bottles contained solids, not liquids. He pulls the bottles out and sees they are frozen. He then says they don't allow frozen goods. I answer that they...
Quote: Originally Posted by unLogical What...the........ Things like this piss me off. I believe it is either rules for all or rules for none on a side note, does anyone know if you can freeze liquid explosives? but this is the tsa we're talkin' 'bout.....dif'rent strokes for dif'rent folks. which means that at the screeners discretion , they can make up rules, choose to enforce rules, choose to enforce rules for some...
A physics lesson in 3 parts: 1. Liquids expand when... A physics lesson in 3 parts: 1. Liquids expand when frozen. 2. Glass doesn't. 3. Pellegrino shards are easy to see because they're green. 8:04 PM Sep 9th from TweetDeck
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