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Originally Posted by Micha Jules
I can agree with your first three sentences but you pulled the 4th sentence out of no where, dude. It reeks of social darwinism, too.
We'll have to disagree.
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It means we evolved supplementing out diet with meat. It's natural. It's healthy. Nothing wrong with it. That said, we should treat what we eat better.
And from a strictly evolutionary standpoint, it's been a good trade off for the domesticated animals we eat: how many cows are there world ...
I'd recommend the film, lets just say you can find it on one of those websites that has links to movies on the internet for free as a DVD rip.
If you are interested in the subject than the movie was largely based off of two recent books the Omnivore's dillema by Micheal Pollan and Fast Food Nation.
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Originally Posted by ocean size
If you are interested in the subject than the movie was largely based off of two recent books the Omnivore's dillema by Micheal Pollan and Fast Food Nation.
Omnivore's Dillema is a great book. Great explanation of how the obesity epidemic in America is the ...
Food fear mongering from western liberals. This agribusiness and altered and "unnatural" food has saved more lives than you could fathom.
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Many of them are elitists. They've never experienced the physical sensation of hunger. They do their lobbying from comfortable office suites in Washington or Brussels. If they lived just one month amid ...
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Originally Posted by Valiss
We're omnivores.
Yeah, and?
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Food fear mongering from western liberals. This agribusiness and altered and "unnatural" food has saved more lives than you could fathom.
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Originally Posted by ocean size
I've heard the first part before- humans used to get about 80% calories from plants and 20% from meat- most cultures of early humans anyway. The meat was lean, wild game- I almost think it is more 'of our nature' to eat mostly leafy greens and other plants and beans than it is ...
The part that angered me most in this film was Monsanto. These guys genetically modify a seed, PATENT it, and take control of 90% of the seed supply in the country. Part of the deal of farmers using this seed is they cannot use equipment to save seed and reuse the following year. So anyone caught reusing a SEED is sued and driven out of business. Even the guys who sell the ...
Quote: Originally Posted by xtrailx These are the arguments that you have been making that I have refuted. You have? Quote: 1. I don't believe animals that are "harvested" are sentient. 2. I don't believe that it is immoral to eat them. 3. I believe the only obligation that we as humans have is to ourselves and our progeny. The first two are not refutations of my stances; they just state that you don't agree...
Quote: Originally Posted by Micha Jules I did. You need to explain it better. if there's something specific you don't understand then ask a question. if you don't understand it at all then read it again. Quote: Originally Posted by Micha Jules Even if that bald statement is true, so what? It does not mean that it is permissible for you to eat meat. Likewise, i might feel a great inclination to be violent, but that does not mean...
Quote: Originally Posted by Micha Jules Even if were agree to this claim, it is irrelevant. Again, the consistency of my behaviour has no bearing on the argument that I offer. Quote: Originally Posted by Micha Jules I believe that animals are quasi-right holders and that we have a prima facie obligation not to kill them. These animals are crowded together in close spaces, treated as objects rather than sentient beings. How any morally...
Quote: Originally Posted by Psychosis Im guessing most people posting in this thread didnt actually see the film as they are so far off the fkin point. Nobody is saying you cant/shouldnt eat meat, the whole point of the film is the major corporations that are taking over the US food system and leading to a decrease in quality of life in society sorry. heheh -Look up Codex Alimentarius; I think that is more on topic. Pretty bizarre stuff...
Quote: Originally Posted by masato@4nzix No need for that the be reminded 'who we really are'... just put some barbeque sauce on that mofo, and enjoy!! lol - 'who we really are' as a living human in a physical state, is as such where eating simply 'goes' with the body, and the sensation of taste and the pleasure of eating is part of the state of being alive in this form. Also the natural instinct to hunt and...
Quote: Originally Posted by shel74nf The part that angered me most in this film was Monsanto. These guys genetically modify a seed, PATENT it, and take control of 90% of the seed supply in the country. Part of the deal of farmers using this seed is they cannot use equipment to save seed and reuse the following year. So anyone caught reusing a SEED is sued and driven out of business. Even the guys who sell the equipment to do this are sued. I...
Some great posts about meat-eating here but has nothing to do with this movie. The typical knee-jerk reaction to anything questioning how are our food is produced - " Liberals want us to stop eating meat. " This has nothing to do with being liberal or conservative. It is food. And the simple fact is, the way almost everything in your supermarket is made has changed drastically in the last few decades. And all this has...
Quote: Originally Posted by bullshido I think people out to much on the killing of animals for food. We should kill them as humainly as possible. But this look them in the eye before we kill bs is stupid. killing animals isn't really the issue, nor is it in the film. it's sort of a tangent this thread is taking because it's usually a big issue between 2 main objective attitudes towards the subject. The mass production of meat...
Quote: Originally Posted by Stringer Bell Sounds like a good book, I will pick it up on amazon. I'm against pretty much against all government subsidies, including agri-business. I guess my eyes tend to glaze over in this type of discussion, because, for most people promoting this agenda, behind the thinly veneered health argument is a deep-seeded hatred for capitalism. I have my opinions on ethical eating and vegetarianism but I am...
Quote: Originally Posted by Stringer Bell what if I eat meat and I'm not obese? is that ok? Well then you'd be in the same boat as me, so I'd say you're in pretty good company. Meat is a very healthy thing to base your diet on, and obesity for the vast majority of people is caused by the overconsumption of sugar and processed grains. I'm certainly not telling anybody to not eat meat, to me a nice rare ribeye is like...
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