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Thread: Flickr: Discussing 7D to many pixels have Canon gone to far??? in Canon DSLR User Group

Started 1 month, 1 week ago by Spacemunkie
Obviously not if you take a look at the many samples posted around the web. It's a big improvement on the 50D and whilst not rivaling the 5D2, it at least doesn't make itself look silly against it.
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Sandy Phimester replied 1 month, 1 week ago
The 7D is good in low light. There is no doubt. But you can't compare it to the latest Full Frame offerings, there is a big reason why it's not as good. But when compared to other crop cameras? It's very good. Certainly nothing to shake a stick at.

f8125 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
"The technology is there to build a 10-12mp full frame prosumer body for less than $1500"....the 5D I ?

robbersdog replied 1 month, 1 week ago
"I have read comments about doubt's in the abiltiy of the 7D's performance in certain low-light conditions." Actually, for a crop sensor camera it's very good in low light. I used to think that the only way to get good quality high ISO photos was by using lower resolution sensors. However, I now no longer believe this to be the case. The problem is that everyone compares 100...

Joe Cocker replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Totally true. Cameras are getting better and better at high ISO even with high MP, however reducing the pixel density would improve that even more.

Harry Pulley replied 1 month, 1 week ago
The 7D's low light looks excellent. Most consumers want MP so as much as a few enthusiasts might gush over really good performance in an 8MP or 10MP camera, it won't pass the marketing department. No way, no how.

Photopaul65 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
The technology is there to build a 10-12mp full frame prosumer body for less than $1500 that would be killer in low light and silky smooth in it high iso performance. I'd be at least second in line to buy it....

DavidOfBristol replied 1 month, 1 week ago
But isn't the 'more pixels=noise' thing just a myth from the early days of digital? Surely if the sensitivity of individual pixels can be increased and heat (one of the early causes of noise) dissipated there's no real problem in making them smaller and greater in number. If bigger pixel meant low noise then medium-format digital backs should rule for high ISO but they are rather ...

pramodmamidi2..... busy over next 2 weeks replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Isn't it also a function of the light gathering ability of the pixels? So if smaller pixels have better light gathering ability, wouldn't that lead to better low light performance and also less noisy pictures? Isn't that what Canon is claiming about its 7d?

rcml replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Canon will max out, they just want to max out higher than Olympus, Nikon and others.

 

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LeakyWaders
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Well, Daniel that was a nice marketing strategy, and yes the iso 6400 looks pretty damn clean. At least the noise is more film like than my 30D, which I couldn't even compare not having iso 6400.
Photopaul65
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@tommyris95 - My apologies if I misstated something. My education on CCD sensor design is dated (about the time the first Kodak DCS cameras were announced). I was fascinated with the prospects it had back then for the world of photography. Many things have changed since then, and I haven't kept up. CCD sensitivity, microlens design and processing software have all advanced greatly since then. But, continuously putting more pixel sites on...
Octavian Micu
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Ok, if we look at the physics of things, what matters is the amount of light which is captured, and that is constant, divided to the energy in noise. If they can manage to keep approximatively the same amount of noise per unit area within a certain range of pixel densities, why not put the highest one on the market? Possible scenario: Lets say that Canon could have gained maybe a third of an f stop with a 12Mp sensor. Nobody would have...
Harry Pulley
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7D didn't eliminate all the auto modes. There is still green box and CA...
robbersdog
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"You don't know that - just pure speculation. " On a pixel level I think you'd need a major change in the laws of physics for a higher resolution sensor to be cleaner than a low res one (all other factors being equal). However, looking at the overall image things may be a lot closer than you'd think. "Scott, the point about high res is for crops." I don't agree. I think there are a lot...
Okie Bill
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If you can find someone who owns one just go out with them and try it. I was not that sure at first but after the shots I couldn't get with any of my other camera started rolling in with regularity I was sold. I am not looking back
pramodmamidi2..... busy over...
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Isn't it also a function of the light gathering ability of the pixels? So if smaller pixels have better light gathering ability, wouldn't that lead to better low light performance and also less noisy pictures? Isn't that what Canon is claiming about its 7d?
Tim Fitzwater
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@ Nathan - you're right. ...also I'm thinking that maybe Canon thought that the high MPs go well with a sports/nature camera, for croppings sake?
Nathan Tia
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At what point do we just go out and shoot? Pixel peeping and this obsession with noise and sharpness is killing photography. Sometimes I feel like we are so consumed with all this hooplah while forgetting the basics - light, exposure, composition.
Joe Cocker
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I sort of agree, but then Canon already reduced the MP in the G11, what's stopping them from doing it in a DSLR. Especially since more SLR users know the difference, compared to P&S owners.

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