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Thread: Finish for red cedar T&G

Started 4 weeks, 1 day ago by Brian W Evans
The situation: I'm planning on putting up some T&G cedar planks in our dining room near the wood stove (which we use a lot). The stove has brick directly adjacent to it, but the T&G would be close enough to get pretty warm without presenting a fire hazard. After some thought, I don't like the look of the raw cedar and would like to stain and finish it. Based on the info I found here on ...
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Bill Rogers replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
I know that this isn't exactly fine woodworking but I need to refinish the interior surfaces on several old wooden double hung windows. All that they have on them is the original clear "varnish" that was applied before they left the factory 20 years ago. They are in a small house that isn't heated during the winter and they do become "wet" from the condensation that forms on the glass panes. On a...

Neal Clayton replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
i build replacements for these type of windows, and use shellac for color with waterlox on top. my thoughts: you have constant abrasion between the window and the jamb. no finish will last there, so the idea is to use a serviceable finish. waterlox is viable, since it can be recoated at any time without sanding or removal, and will give you the protection from the condensate. 'deck stain' ...

Shawn Patel replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Behlen's Rockhard TT finish or Waterlox Original are good suggestions if you want a finish that builds. Both are glossy, so you'll need to knock down the sheen AFTER CURING. I've tried pumice and steel wool and 600-1000 sandpaper. The best for me, though is picking a satin or semigloss finish to begin with. Red oak will require some grain filling. The simplest is to use a commercial grain filler ...

phil harold replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Shawn Patel flood the sfc with an oil/varnish/MS blend ms blend? please explain thanks

Shawn Patel replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
Boiled Linseed Oil, Oil-based varnish, Mineral Spirits. Many recommend a 33/33/33 ratio split. It probably doesn't matter, but the ratio that I liked on a recently made bench is: 10% BLO, 40% varnish, 50% Mineral spirits. I'm out of my league here, so the following is only my own experience and intuition: the OIL component just keeps it softer longer. 10% seems to do a good job of ...

J. Scott Holmes replied 3 months, 2 weeks ago
An oil/varnish blend is not as durable as the Waterlox and Behlen's film forming finishes. But many like the look and use it often. It is far superior to an oil and/or oil/wax finish. I use an oil/varnih blend on my woodshop work benches.

Jim Kappel replied 3 months, 1 week ago
So I'm breezing along with my shellac and now today, I'm seeing a milky white appearance as the shellac dries. What gives?

Jim Kappel replied 3 months, 1 week ago
Temp here is 60 with a dew point at 53. Is that too much moisture in the air or not warm enough?

Tom Veatch replied 3 months, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Kappel So I'm breezing along with my shellac and now today, I'm seeing a milky white appearance as the shellac dries. What gives? It's called "blushing" and if it's being applied in a high humidity environment, it's probably caused by evaporation of the solvent cooling the surface to...

John Pratt replied 3 months, 1 week ago
I know it has been a while since anyone posted anything about this sprayer (Earlex 5000). I just got one for the shop from Woodcraft. Anybody experience any problems with it? What needle kit have you experienced the best results with (needle kit vs. medium)? I am moving into a shop with a finish room/spray booth of 27' x 12' and I am hoping to use this sprayer extensively. Any thoughts or tips ...

 

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J. Scott Holmes
75
user's latest post:
cherry wood filler advice needed
Published (2009-12-12 21:48:00)
Don, How does Watco dry rock hard with sawdust? It's an oil/varnish blend; which dries to a rubbery consistancy when it dries on a hard surface. Are you using a watco varnish instead of an oil/varnish blend?
Phil Phelps
23
user's latest post:
Color change in Curly Cherry
Published (2009-12-12 12:32:00)
Well, that is interesting. Are all the drawers the same size? If so, I'd move the lighest ones to the bottom when you finally get this solved. Do you have any of the light cherry for experimentation? I'd use the sun then go to the stain or clear coat tinting, testing.
Tony Bilello
22
user's latest post:
cherry wood filler advice needed
Published (2009-12-12 22:22:00)
Why not do it with a paste wood grain filler. That is what it is made for. I dont know what finish you plan on using so I will give generic information. Normally the grain filler is darker than the rest of the wood. This has been found to be more pleasing to the eye. The colorant in the grain filler will also act like a stain and darken the wood also if used directly on top of the stain or unprotected wood. The usual procedure is to stain the...
Jim Becker
18
user's latest post:
any experiences with Toymaker’s...
Published (2009-12-12 23:06:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by J. Scott Holmes Almost all finishes are safe for kids and or food once they have dried and cured. No "almost" about it. All of them currently marketed should quality once fully cured. (Which can be in the neighborhood of a month for most finishes) I happen to like shellac for this kind of thing, however...after all, they put it on candy to keep your hands from getting messed up and on medications...
Howard Acheson
17
user's latest post:
How to reduce the gloss on...
Published (2009-12-12 20:09:00)
>>> Would it be acceptable to use the gloss for the 1st 2 coats and then apply the semi-gloss as the final coat? The gloss of the final coat determines the final gloss.
Shawn Patel
15
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Quick & easy finish for...
Published (2009-12-10 16:10:00)
+1 on shellac. See how Zinsser Sealcoat does ya (from BORG). Cheap and easy. It's dewaxed and slightly blonde. So if you want more protection later, you can put any coat right on top of it. It's also thin enough to pad. Danish oil is also easy. Gotta let it dry in between coats longer than shellac, but you have to be a real maroon to mess up the application (although I have managed to do that in the past: Watch for bleeding on...
keith ouellette
14
user's latest post:
spray equipment?
Published (2009-12-01 17:33:00)
I am tired of my decent wood working being ruined by horrible finishing. Right now I do have a cheep Hf hvlp gun I use with my compressor. The compressor is big enough but the gun I have has a large needle and I use it to spray latex. It throws out way to much oil base and would flood a work piece with something as thin as dye. The Earlex 5000 is on sale in eagle catalog for $299 ($40 off reg) I understand this is a fairly good spray system...
Neal Clayton
12
user's latest post:
Repair finish
Published (2009-12-12 21:54:00)
yea perhaps i oversimplified, i should've noted "interior" varnishes denoting short oil varnishes, scott's clarifications are correct. exterior varnishes don't really apply to this discussion of an inside table. waterlox makes a polyurethane varnish, i'm not sure if it's tung oil based like their other varnishes though. if it is, it's the only one i know of.
Dan Mitchell
11
user's latest post:
Charles Neil Finishing DVDs
Published (2009-11-21 22:09:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by William Hutchinson I have the DVD set and consider it a tremendous reference for woodworkers learning and improving finishing techniques. I would suggest that you visit his website and watch the previews and the other free stuff. This will give you a taste of how the information is presented. The videos are not professionally produced and sound quality can be a distraction. If you want a step-by-step approach, this...
John Keeton
9
user's latest post:
Finish for walnut/birdseye maple...
Published (2009-12-09 07:30:00)
BLO is boiled linseed oil.

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