Right, I started a new job a week ago working in a hotel. While it's not bad, it's really not what I want to be doing at all.
I love aviation. I always have and I always will. Ask anyone who knows me, they'll say the same. I've known from such a young age that I wanted to fly, and that desire is still burning deep inside.
I've had my PPL for close to two years, paid through another job ...
Humm. There is no doubt you are a 'young person'. Why should there be 'any help'?
If you want to do something then it is about working it out (or not) but actually finding a way to do it. My daughter has similar thoughts (although a different ambition). She seems to think that society should make it easy for her to get what she wants, I counter with the obvious question of why?
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I'm not some bum who expects to be handed everything on a plate. I've worked 11 hour days since I was 16, paid for my licence and I'm proud of that. I'm not scared of hard work. I'd love to work at an airfield cleaning the hangars out. I really would.
However, I seem to be stuck in a rut. I can't get out. I'm asking for some help and advice from people who have experience.
Chesty, I've tried so many around my area and further away. Not just airfields and airports but also companies that work in the aviation industry.
I heard back from maybe two or three and they were all negative anyway.
I don't know what else to do.
Fantastic to hear about your interest in a career in aviation there is loads of stuff going on out there that would benefit from some passion and commitment. Dont live in the past 50 years or 5 years ago learn from it and enjoy a better future.
When I left school and was working as a labourer on building sites and in factories all the older unskilled men I was working with ...
Mike
I really do feel for you! Now is not a good time in aviation. The one ray of hope is that because of the huge financial cost of getting into aviation I know the influx of pilots coming in at the bottom is fast drying up with dire warnings to the airline industry of a huge potential shortage of pilots in the future.
I have friends who have funded type ratings by selling everything ...
Just a suggestion....
How about getting yourself an A/G licence and doing the radio at your (or a) local airfield? It won't cost you much, you'll be in the environment and earning a few quid to boot. Be sociable and keen, and you might just make a useful contact here and there. At that level, no airfield operator is going to mind if your ambition ultimatley is to fly. You're a useful stop-...
There seem to be a few www sites of companies working in airports or partnering with airports to deliver services that have contact points for jobs Vacancies
Might be worth making contact and seeing what they can offer and getting your name known if a job comes up.
What Foxy Loxy said...
That's how I did it, and it was only 35 years ago... It would be unfair to you to assume that similar opportunities are convenient for you, but a lot of us did it that way. I spent a lot of time cleaning the undersides of aircraft for free, in the hope I would be taken flying. I was...
An author once said "luck favours the prepared". Stay prepared Mike...
There is never going to be a time when they will have a shortage of pilots.
An ATPL is just a bus driver in the sky.
Go for a career where you can afford private flying. You will be more happy in your life.
Life's changed, adept, try to do something. And oh, please stop thinking that everybody who is successful got it from daddy, most of them didn't.
Judging from some of the replies, people seem to think I expect everything handed to me on a plate. If you knew me you'd know this isn't the case at all. I've not had it mega hard, I admit, but I have worked my arse off working a shit job for peanuts to pay for flying lessons. So when people insinuate that I'm lazy and want everything handed to me, that annoys me. Yeah I want advice and any help would be great!, who...
Hi Mike172, Reading some of the posts here is making me feel uneasy. Guys have been recounting what crap jobs they have had to do and for how many years they have had to do them just in order to get that commercial licence. Don't get me wrong, these people deserve the UTMOST respect and GENUINE admiration. Every one of these people THOROUGHLY DESERVES the success he/she has achieved. However, when reading each story I can't help...
There seem to be a few www sites of companies working in airports or partnering with airports to deliver services that have contact points for jobs Vacancies Might be worth making contact and seeing what they can offer and getting your name known if a job comes up.
Further to my earlier post - it was 24 before I finally got my CPL, then there was a slump and it then took me another 18 months or so before getting a reasonable job (Air taxi) and it was not until I was 30 that I finally joined an Airline flying Shorts 360 and 2+ more years before starting on Jets so you have time yet
Quote: What sometimes pisses me off is that people put qualifications above enthusiasm, passion and commitment. Actually an employer is interested in none of those other than as proxies for "can this person do the job and make me a profit better than any of the other candidates?". Once Upon A Time I took a punt and hired someone keen who didn't have the usually expected qualifications - never again!!
Hi Mike, It is nice to hear some enthusiasm from a future airline pilot. Too bad there aren't more like that. I started as a hangar rat, extra hand for the engineers and refueller and got a good few hours from owners and club members for cleaning and all the usual odd jobs. I left college to do that for 50 squid a week and half an hour in the book. Excellent experience. But it still took 10 years, also with other jobs like waiting,...
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It is such a shame that seemingly so few pilots put any value on the advantages of owning a share in an aeroplane, no matter what it is and what you use it for. It is such a great way to get around and put some affordable consolidation in your logbook post flight test for example - if you are after more hours. Or simply a great way to see the country and enjoy the priviledges of your PPL, in the knowledge that you are saving huge amounts of...
Just a suggestion.... How about getting yourself an A/G licence and doing the radio at your (or a) local airfield? It won't cost you much, you'll be in the environment and earning a few quid to boot. Be sociable and keen, and you might just make a useful contact here and there. At that level, no airfield operator is going to mind if your ambition ultimatley is to fly. You're a useful stop-gap. Ten years ago, I worked at an...
Quote: I often wish I was born 50 years ago where a pilot could start out by sweeping hangars or cleaning aircraft. I think it still happens like this sometimes and I know one lad who went from hanger sweeping to the RAF. I have to say that I agree to an extent with sternone, though I am a) too old by far to be a commercial pilot anyway and b) in a very well paid non aviation career which funds my flying. If you really have a passion then you...
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