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Thread: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why?

Started 4 months, 1 week ago by Sparrow
The Fantasy Genre has been on quite a roll and for some time now, while Science Fiction is all but dead. I can rattle off a dozen great books I've read in the last ten years, from Neverwhere to Abarat to The Diamond Age(mostly fantasy) to etc... where is the readership for the new Science Fiction? YA saved Fantasy, will it save Science Fiction?
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Sparrow replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? The Fantasy Genre has been on quite a roll and for some time now, while Science Fiction is all but dead. I can rattle off a dozen great books I've read in the last ten years, from Neverwhere to Abarat to The Diamond Age(mostly fantasy) to etc... where is the readership for the new Science Fiction? YA saved Fantasy, will it save ...

clovis-man replied 4 months, 1 week ago
We're still here. And in some cases those of us who read "the new Science Fiction" are the same chaps who have been reading "the old Science Fiction" all along. There are good as well as poor efforts in both SF & F today. And that has always been the case lo these many years. You pays your money and takes your choice.

clovis-man replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? We're still here. And in some cases those of us who read "the new Science Fiction" are the same chaps who have been reading "the old Science Fiction" all along. There are good as well as poor efforts in both SF & F today. And that has always been the case lo these many years. You pays your money and takes your choice.

j. d. worthington replied 4 months, 1 week ago
I've not read enough of the new sf to be able to judge current quality overall, but I've seen a few things which seemed rather good. And it isn't the first time sf has been said to be dying, or that it has been seen as stagnating, only to have a new movement sweep through and revivify it entirely. The same has been true of fantasy, horror, the mystery and detective fields, etc., etc., etc. All ...

j. d. worthington replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? I've not read enough of the new sf to be able to judge current quality overall, but I've seen a few things which seemed rather good. And it isn't the first time sf has been said to be dying, or that it has been seen as stagnating, only to have a new movement sweep through and revivify it entirely. The same has been true of fantasy,...

iansales replied 4 months, 1 week ago
If SF is dying, someone should tell Gollancz as they just paid 1 millions Pounds Sterling to Alastair Reynolds to write ten sf novels.

iansales replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? If SF is dying, someone should tell Gollancz as they just paid 1 millions Pounds Sterling to Alastair Reynolds to write ten sf novels.

Rodders replied 4 months, 1 week ago
SF isn't dying, if anything i'd argue that it was getting more mainstream.

Rodders replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? SF isn't dying, if anything i'd argue that it was getting more mainstream.

mygoditsraining replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Tor Editor Patrick Nielsen Hayden On the Future of SF Books - Publishing - io9 Quote: io9: Thinking science fictionally, what do you see happening to SF publishing over the next few decades? Will we still have novels? How will we read them? PNH: In 1991 or 92, I registered tor.com, and it was originally a gopher server. So I don't know what the technologies will be - I ...

mygoditsraining replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? Tor Editor Patrick Nielsen Hayden On the Future of SF Books - Publishing - io9 Quote: io9: Thinking science fictionally, what do you see happening to SF publishing over the next few decades? Will we still have novels? How will we read them? PNH: In 1991 or 92, I registered tor.com, and it was originally a ...

 

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Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? Psychology without Philosophy would be rather useless, in my opinion. Teach an understanding of the mind and then teach them how to think critically or at the very least give them the basics. At anyrate, the parents groups and religious groups (usually one in the same) here in America, would come out of the woodwork protesting the inclusion of Philosophy into a high school curriculum. They...
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Erm, sorry, it took my feeble brain about a day to process a reply, probably because it's turned so cold and wet here in the land of contractor druids. Quote: Originally Posted by j. d. worthington But they aren't guesses; a guess does not depend on evidence (or is made in reaction to very little, often misleading, evidence). They are models of the world and the universe around us based on verifiable, testable, repeatable results of...
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On that last point -- not necessarily. Along with the evidences against free wll in the usually accepted sense, are guidelines for making informed choices which offset the more disastrous aspects, such as relieving people of the idea that they aren't morally responsible for their actions. It's a complicated issue in dealing with how the human mind works, but the two really aren't incompatible. As far as teaching philosophy --...
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Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? Dawkins On Tau Ceti would be an amazing title for a vintage SF novel. A free smilie to anyone who knocks up a cover for it!!!
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Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? A colonel at the breakfast table deploys the "more things" line when discussing ghosts with Michael Hordern's professor in the 1968 film of "Whistle and I'll Come to You". Hordern's professor returns with "There are more things in philosophy than are dreamt of in Heaven and Earth". Which seems pretty clever, until he goes...
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Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? I dont really care as long SF is still big enough to have big shelf in the book store. I see my english specialist book store that even if vampire,urban,epic fantasy has made fantasy bigger the SF shelf is as big as before and they keep refiling with new books of the popular sf writers,new other sf. I don't have to order Richard Morgan type authors books,they are always refilled. As long...
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Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? Quote: Originally Posted by HareBrain ... he goes insane after being molested by a bedsheet . The mind boggles... J PS Does anyone know what blacknorth said? My erse is a little rusty... (any man -- or bear -- who makes any kind of pun out of that will receive formal Judicial Disapproval)
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Re: Fantasy is alive and well, SF is dying... why? You know, I've been following this thread in desultory fashion. But I have to say that I haven't been personally affected by this "dying" genre. There are plenty of good authors out there producing plenty of material. I'm certainly not running out of things to read. If there's a bit of a lull, I haven't really noticed it. If there's a burgeoning...
Rodders
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Surely the poll in this thread would be indicative of whether SF is in decline?
Fried Egg
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One possible explanation for the decline in SF readership might be to do with a shift in the public perception of science and our vision of the future. I believe that people generally had a far more positive view of science from the 40's to the 60's and faith in it's ability to offer hope and a solution to many of mankind's problems. With science there is almost nothing we cannot achieve. Now it is quite different. Science...

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