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Thread: Falacy of the Electric Car

Started 1 month, 3 weeks ago by elmer
There is no free lunch. The proponents of Electric Cars haven't got a clue or are just trying to feather their pockets. It takes the same amount of energy to move x vehicle regardless of that form of energy. There are many jokes about everybody plugging in at the same time but it is no joke. Take Southern California where the this lunacy is at it's zenith. If one tenth of the vehicles ...
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Richard replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 23:53:55 -0400, elmer wrote: [color=blue] > There is no free lunch. The proponents of Electric Cars haven't got a > clue or are just trying to feather their pockets. > It takes the same amount of energy to move x vehicle regardless of that > form of energy. > There are many jokes about everybody plugging in at the same time but it > is no joke. > Take Southern ...

Gary V replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
On Oct 31, 3:05*am, richard <mem...@newsguy.com> wrote: [color=blue] > The next phase of the electric development is to have the car charge > itself. Why not? The standard car today already charges it's own battery. > Why can't an electric do the same thing?[/color] Is that not the definition of hybrid, richard? Or are you envisioning some system where a full-electric car recharges ...

Scott in SoCal replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Last time on rec.autos.driving, elmer <e@f.udd> said: [color=blue] >There is no free lunch. The proponents of Electric Cars haven't got a >clue or are just trying to feather their pockets. >It takes the same amount of energy to move x vehicle regardless of that >form of energy. >There are many jokes about everybody plugging in at the same time but it >is no joke. >Take Southern California...

Bernd Felsche replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote:[color=blue] >Last time on rec.autos.driving, elmer <e@f.udd> said:[/color] [color=blue][color=green] >>There is no free lunch. The proponents of Electric Cars haven't got a >>clue or are just trying to feather their pockets. >>It takes the same amount of energy to move x vehicle regardless of that >>form of energy. >>There are many jokes ...

elmer replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Scott in SoCal wrote:[color=blue] > Last time on rec.autos.driving, elmer <e@f.udd> said: >[color=green] >> There is no free lunch. The proponents of Electric Cars haven't got a >> clue or are just trying to feather their pockets. >> It takes the same amount of energy to move x vehicle regardless of that >> form of energy. >> There are many jokes about everybody plugging in at the same ...

Larry G replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
On Oct 31, 10:35*am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...@yahoo.com> wrote:[color=blue] > Last time on rec.autos.driving, elmer <e...@f.udd> said: >[color=green] > >There is no free lunch. The proponents of Electric Cars haven't got a > >clue or are just trying to feather their pockets. > >It takes the same amount of energy to move x vehicle regardless of that > >form of energy. > >There are many...

Scott in SoCal replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Last time on rec.autos.driving, Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> said: [color=blue] >Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote:[color=green] >>Last time on rec.autos.driving, elmer <e@f.udd> said:[/color] >[color=green][color=darkred] >>>There is no free lunch. The proponents of Electric Cars haven't got a >>>clue or are just trying to feather their pockets. >>>It takes...

Scott in SoCal replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Last time on rec.autos.driving, elmer <e@f.udd> said: [color=blue] >solar cells at night or evening? Interesting.[/color] You could certainly use solar to charge your car while it sits in the parking lot all day at work. If you have storage batteries at home, you could charge those with solar and transfer the stored charge to your car when you get home. Or use the panels to charge your ...

Scott in SoCal replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
Last time on rec.autos.driving, Larry G <gross.larry@gmail.com> said: [color=blue] >but the most compelling issue is what happens to funding for roads? > >I'm pretty skeptical that we are going to go to a GPS-in-car mileage >system.. so I'm thinking we're going to see a LOT MORE tolls.. >including cordon tolls. > >thoughts?[/color] There's no question the way roads are funded is going ...

brent replied 1 month, 3 weeks ago
On 2009-10-31, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan@yahoo.com> wrote:[color=blue] > Last time on rec.autos.driving, Larry G <gross.larry@gmail.com> said: >[color=green] >>but the most compelling issue is what happens to funding for roads? >> >>I'm pretty skeptical that we are going to go to a GPS-in-car mileage >>system.. so I'm thinking we're going to see a LOT MORE tolls.. >>including cordon ...

 

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Bernd Felsche
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[email]hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com[/email] wrote:[color=blue] &gt;On Nov 13, 11:35=A0pm, elmer &lt;e...@f.udd&gt; wrote:[color=green] &gt;&gt; hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:[/color][/color] [color=blue][color=green] &gt;&gt; You forget the mining and transportation of coal to the plant. you &gt;&gt; forget the disposal of toxic and somewhat radioactive residues as part &gt;&gt; of the costs. There are other...
Larry G
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On Nov 12, 1:13*pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:[color=blue] &gt; On Nov 11, 9:18*pm, Bernd Felsche &lt;ber...@innovative.iinet.net.au&gt;[/color] &quot; Due to affordability, many people can't live where they want to. &quot; people drive further - between home and work not because they are forced to but because they want more house for their money. when you take a job with a higher salary but there is not affordable...
brent
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On 2009-11-06, Scott in SoCal &lt;scottenaztlan@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:[color=blue] &gt; Last time on rec.autos.driving, [email]russotto@grace.speakeasy.net[/email] (Matthew &gt; Russotto) said: &gt;[color=green] &gt;&gt;In article &lt;e143bf00-79c3-4e04-ae6f-2d84cc920d9d@t2g2000yqn.googlegroups.com&gt;, &gt;&gt; &lt;hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com&gt; wrote:[color=darkred] &gt;&gt;&gt;On Oct...
Scott in SoCal
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Last time on rec.autos.driving, Larry G &lt;gross.larry@gmail.com&gt; said: [color=blue] &gt;right now - across the technology spectrum there is investment money &gt;waiting until there is a breakthrough..[/color] Heh - then those investors are going to miss the boat. The way to make money is to invest in the technology *before* it breaks through, when the shares are actually affordable. The people who buy the stock after the...
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On Nov 15, 8:55*am, Larry G &lt;gross.la...@gmail.com&gt; wrote:[color=blue] &gt; On Nov 12, 1:13*pm, hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: &gt;[color=green] &gt; &gt; On Nov 11, 9:18*pm, Bernd Felsche &lt;ber...@innovative.iinet.net.au&gt;[/color] &gt; &gt; &quot; Due to affordability, many people can't live where they want to. &quot; &gt; &gt; people drive further - between home and work...
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In article &lt;0f3b898a-7124-4da6-87da-dccb9e059fbb@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com&gt;, [email]hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com[/email] wrote: [color=blue] &gt; On Nov 15, 1:37*am, Bernd Felsche &lt;ber...@innovative.iinet.net.au&gt; &gt; wrote:[color=green] &gt; &gt; hanco...@bbs.cpcn.com wrote:[color=darkred] &gt; &gt; &gt;On Nov 11, 8:57=A0pm, Bernd Felsche &lt;ber...@innovative.iinet.net.au&gt;...
Matthew Russotto
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In article &lt;alangbaker-A35D92.10011316112009@news.shawcable.com&gt;, Alan Baker &lt;alangbaker@telus.net&gt; wrote:[color=blue] &gt;In article &gt;&lt;0f3b898a-7124-4da6-87da-dccb9e059fbb@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com&gt;, &gt; [email]hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com[/email] wrote: &gt;[color=green] &gt;&gt; On Nov 15, 1:37*am, Bernd Felsche &lt;ber...@innovative.iinet.net.au&gt; &gt;&gt;...
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jim &lt;&quot;.sjedgingN0sp&quot;@m@mwt.net&gt; wrote in news:0oWdnfApQpvvr2fXnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@bright.net: [color=blue] &gt; &gt; &gt; [email]hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com[/email] wrote:[color=green] &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; On Nov 10, 12:39 pm, John David Galt &lt;j...@diogenes.sacramento.ca.us&gt; &gt;&gt; wrote: &gt;&gt;[color=darkred] &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; You seem awfully...
Larry Sheldon
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Bernd Felsche wrote:[color=blue] &gt; Larry Sheldon &lt;lfsheldon@gmail.com&gt; wrote:[color=green] &gt;&gt; Bernd Felsche wrote:[/color] &gt;[color=green][color=darkred] &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Note: Centimetres aren't SI.[/color][/color] &gt;[color=green][color=darkred] &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Right, it's even worse than that, with SI you've got no length unit...
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On Nov 2, 8:14*am, Brent &lt;tetraethylleadREMOVET...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:[color=blue] &gt; On 2009-11-02, Gary V &lt;gjvos...@comcast.net&gt; wrote: &gt;[color=green] &gt; &gt; On Nov 2, 12:33*am, Scott in SoCal &lt;scottenazt...@yahoo.com&gt; wrote:[color=darkred] &gt; &gt;&gt; Last time on rec.autos.driving, Larry G &lt;gross.la...@gmail.com&gt; said:[/color][/color]...

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