Thread: FAO Moulana Eteacher regarding part time alimah courses
Started 2 months, 3 weeks ago by Soupy
Assalamualaykum.w.w.
Moulana Eteacher, I felt it necessary to respond to the disparaging comments you left on sunnipath on the thread: http://www.sunniforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4 9050
Briefly,
1. You mention they want every alim/ alimah to have a title in the shortest amount of time Do you know how long our students have been studying or did you just guess that it must be ...
Assalamu alaikium
I also do not approve of people who disparage efforts like this. I believe efforts such as this should be in every masjid and be spreading the knowledge of deen such as fiqh, hadeeth, tafseer, etc. I myself have not been to Darul Uloom but I am highly thankful to our imam saheb who guided me to read a few books here and there due to which alhamduliAllah I at least know how ...
a/w,
im not aiming this at molana e-teacher
but one thing ive seen in the deobandi minded people (some of them not all ), is that they like to criticise without looking at the whole situation, im not advocating the institution because i dont no much about them, but if what the sister is saying is 100% then no-one can really have any objections, according to the indian (UP) ulama they...
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Originally Posted by hope1
If there is a reason instead of shutting and criticizing them they should be advised with sincerity how they can improve themselves.
Jazakallah. We always welcome good advice. If anyone here at sunniforum wishes to visit us and see what we do and offer constructive criticism we ...
Assalamu Alaikum,
I've been really busy and still am but to reply to this thread....my main concern is that students are only studying 6 hours per week whereas in a normal darul uloom, they study about 30~36 per week of class time. Along with that, they have supervised study time every evening which usually last at maximum two hours.
So the time per week is too less and it is still being...
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Originally Posted by eTeacher
Assalamu Alaikum,
I've been really busy and still am but to reply to this thread....my main concern is that students are only studying 6 hours per week whereas in a normal darul uloom, they study about 30~36 per week of class time. Along with that, they have supervised study time every evening...
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Originally Posted by hope1
Assalamu alaikum,
What defines an 'alim or 'alimah? Madressah certificate or the appropriate knowledge? Which knowledge is necessary to become an 'alim? All the subjects taught in madressah is necessary? Previously the darse nizami had more books and now it is cut down. So that shows there is not ...
Throughout Islamic history those studying under Shuyukh (part-time) and proper Ulama have always been distinguished.
Masses have always referred to and contacted Ulama (who have completed full time training under other qualified Ulama) for Islamic advice, those whos credibility and Authenticity has been relied upon.
A part-timer hasn't been and shouldn't be called an Alim. Its ...
molana eteacher i agree with you on many aspects, altough brother hope1 has some valid points,
my mufti saab also has similer views to molana etaecher, he is generally against these partime alim/alimah courses for the same reasons, this is something he has personally seen, he was also teaching students like this and he saw the negative consiquences of this, so now he is not that keen ...
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Originally Posted by The Fake Shaykh
molana eteacher i agree with you on many aspects, altough brother hope1 has some valid points,
my mufti saab also has similer views to molana etaecher, he is generally against these partime alim/alimah courses for the same reasons, this is something he has personally seen, he was also ...
Quote: Originally Posted by eTeacher When someone is called an Alim, people understand that they must have completed the Alim course in a Darul Uloom. A part time course can never be called a full time course so how can the same title be given? It doesn't matter who is offering them, if it's not the real thing, then don't call it that. Call it something else. Come up with a different name for it. This topic has already been...
Quote: Originally Posted by ENIGMA have you actually tried to do this bruv. let me tell you,its a closed shop and they will not listen unless you are a alim,have a connection with the institute and part of the inner circle. Fakey,i'll email you about the kind of tactics being employed by our institutes so other similar institutes cannot get a look in. Its like a cartel,a monopoly that is being run with. will only fakey, get a look in and...
The women who initially enrol at the Madrasah are keen to enrol on an 'aalimah course'. But once they start studying and as they progress they drop the name and say they will never consider themselves to be aalimahs as they realise their own deficiencies compared to those of the ulamah. Many of the students have repeatedly requested that the name be changed and generally we do not even call it an 'aalimah course' except...
Quote: Originally Posted by Soupy Brother Colonels comments that aalimahs have been caught with drugs in Darul ulooms is also reflective of all institutes. Any graduate of Markaz, Darul Uloom Bury, Blackburn, Leicester the most prestigious institutes in the UK know very well what goes on amongst some of the male students there too. The types of items that are uncovered in room checks are unbelievable, as the aalim brothers are well aware...
Quote: Originally Posted by Soupy I realise I am the only sister contributing to this thread so I will not comment on further responses. All I can say is that if there are any sisters out there who are doubting whether the study of deen in depth is the correct choice for them, then an aalimah course is not the only option. Madrasahs offer all types of courses. There are other options such as the part time Islamic studies course which teaches...
Have been reading the thread with interest…..interesting points however after having being around I can say that the darulooms are better than any other education system at the moment…but they are still not good enough….its not just the girls darulooms its also the boys darulooms….its not just england its actually the whole world……just go to abu nour and see the students (old students) surfing the net and...
Quote: Originally Posted by VeiledOne Well said. It is very important for women to learn the deen. The first madrassa of a child is the mother's initial upbringing. No matter how knowledgeable or practicing the father is the women needs to be able function in the folds of Islam when the husband is not around. She needs to have understanding of Islam. Not just the laws of fiqh, but of adab and akhlaq as well. If sisters do commit sins in...
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