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Thread: Extraordinary: U.S Ambassador Eikenberry cables Obama cautioning against troop increase.

Started 1 month, 1 week ago by beachmom
I have never seen anything like this: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic le/20... U.S. envoy resists increase in troops CONCERNS VOICED ABOUT KARZAI Cables sent as Obama weighs deployment options The U.S. ambassador in Kabul sent two classified cables to Washington in the past week expressing deep concerns about sending more U.S. troops to ...
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Luftmensch067 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
But I have to admire his strategic skills!

karynnj replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Kerry has spoken about the corruption and the need to reform all year - including at Eikenberry's confirmation, where both thought this was a problem. I suspect that Kerry's dilemma is that all the alternatives are bad, so pushing the remote possibility of reform - but arguing in his plan that it be implemented only where there is legitimate Afghan government to fill in behind might be ...

Inuca replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 02:05 AM by Inuca headline I saw as I went online this morning. OTOH it is also said that he will announce a decision very soon after he gets back to the States on the 19th. Maybe I am looking at all this in too simplistic a way, but I do not see how the two pieces of information mesh together. And I agree, all of this IS quite extraordiary. And Obama is taking ...

wisteria replied 1 month, 1 week ago
This leak is as bad as the CBS leak that went in the other direction. I am not saying I do not trust any one persons reporting, just that the news has swung from one end to the other. Frankly, I do not know what to believe right now.

karynnj replied 1 month, 1 week ago
policy and test the assumptions" phase. It is very reasonable to look at the likely way the scenario plays out to determine if it includes an exit strategy. I think many on DU are leaping to seeing this as the beginning of withdrawal or that the decision has been made not to add troops. That was my first reaction last night, but now I'm not sure it says that. A narrower way to look at it is ...

fedupinBushcountry replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Despite the dissatisfaction with Eikenberry’s apparent leak, according to the staffer, Obama “demanded” an exit strategy for the war

beachmom replied 1 month, 1 week ago
there was NO WH denial. So I tend to believe these stories as coming from inside the WH more than the leaked stories coming from the Pentagon. Still, I totally agree with you that we need to wait for the actual announcement.

beachmom replied 1 month, 1 week ago
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_di sh/20... I suspect Eikenberry has given Obama the opening he needs to leave Afghanistan and refuse to commit more young Americans to the defense of a corrupt government and the prosecution of an unending war that no longer serves a core national interest for the US. If Obama does that, it will take enormous courage. It will reveal a ...

karynnj replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 05:05 PM by karynnj Though even reading it several times, I'm not sure exactly who the people are who are furious with him, other than obviously McChrystal. I checked the White House site and found the NSC contained: "The NSC is chaired by the President. Its regular attendees (both statutory and non-statutory) are the Vice President, the Secretary of State, the ...

beachmom replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Edited on Thu Nov-12-09 09:32 PM by beachmom http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/78813.ht ml Eikenberry wrote the cable last Friday after a meeting in which he pressed Karzai to send his brother, Ahmed Wali Karzai, the political power in southern Kandahar province who allegedly has links to the drug trade, anywhere outside the country, and to embrace a program of overhauls, ...

 

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http://washingtonindependent.com/67521/inside-this-morn... RETRACTED Update, 8:50 a.m.: I am retracting this post, published yesterday, titled “Inside This Morning’s White House Afghanistan Meeting: Anger With Eikenberry, ‘Beef’ With McChrystal.” My original source for the post stands by the account provided. The individual, a National Security Council staffer who spoke on condition of anonymity, has provided truthful and verified...
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It is not a good sign that Karzai has become defiant in defending his corrupt government. That might be why the Eikenberry cable was leaked. That cable is devastating in its impact on many levels. One level is that if Karzai now makes the major changes that have to be made and kicks his brother out, the cable will be used as proof that he is a puppet with the US pulling the strings. Karzai was already viewed as a US puppet, but might...
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He is the leader of Afghanistan, and we are not out to "own" Afghanistan. I agree with a need for open government,and no corruption and even close monitoring of his brother, but I can see where-if this account is true-Karzai is uncomfortable being forced into these choices and will not go along. It makes him look like a patsy to the US instead of the leader he is suppose to be in the eyes of his people.
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But I have to admire his strategic skills!
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Despite the dissatisfaction with Eikenberry’s apparent leak, according to the staffer, Obama “demanded” an exit strategy for the war

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