Thread: European Court Fines Italy for Classroom Display of the Crucifix
Started 1 month, 3 weeks ago by Slaol_121
Symbols have a tremendous power to convey meaning, and the secularizing forces reigning in the European Union seem bent on eradicating all signs of the Christian civilization which once flourished in every one of its 27 member nations.
As the Lisbon Treaty tightens the noose around the necks of the nations of what was once Christian Europe, an appalling circumstance in Italy summarizes ...
The court ruled in favor of an Italian citizen of Finnish origin who complained in 2002 that the state school where her two children studied violated their freedom by displaying crucifixes.
The school's administration refused to remove them, contending that the crucifix is part of Italian cultural patrimony; Italian courts subsequently backed this claim.
Now, the Strasbourg-based ...
When was the last time Slaol_121 was actually in a public -school classroom here in God's Country? Not too many crucifixes around...
Really, if Slaol_121 needs to throw his apron over his head and have a good cry, he ought to at least find something to cry about.
George Aligator wrote:
When was the last time Slaol_121 was actually in a public -school classroom here in God's Country? Not too many crucifixes around...
Really, if Slaol_121 needs to throw his apron over his head and have a good cry, he ought to at least find something to cry about.
This issue here is not the crucifix. The issue is the European Court of Human Rights ...
Let me put it this
Try this fecking crap in 96% Catholic Ireland---and the European judges may go into hiding---indeed the fecking european MPS will need to join them
Racial or religious discrimation is one thing but 1400 years of tradition being trampled on---no way--England tried to walk on our ways,our laws, our religion,---all they got was bodies
I agree. If the Italian people wanted the crucifix, that is their perogative. The EU never stated in the treaty negotiation process that this would occur.
andytown wrote: Let me put it this
Try this fecking crap in 96% Catholic Ireland---and the European judges may go into hiding---indeed the fecking european MPS will need to join them
Racial or religious discrimation is one thing but 1400 years of tradition being trampled on---no way--England tried to walk on our ways,our laws, our religion,---all they got was bodies
if they ...
European Snob wrote: TR1985 wrote: I agree. If the Italian people wanted the crucifix, that is their perogative. The EU never stated in the treaty negotiation process that this would occur.
This decision has nothing to do with the Lisbon Treaty.
European Court of Human Rights
"The compulsory display of a symbol of a given confession in premises used by the public ...
TR1985 wrote: I agree. If the Italian people wanted the crucifix, that is their perogative. The EU never stated in the treaty negotiation process that this would occur.
This decision has nothing to do with the Lisbon Treaty.
European Court of Human Rights
"The compulsory display of a symbol of a given confession in premises used by the public authorities, and especially ...
Axis Mundi wrote: TR1985 wrote: Axis Mundi wrote: TR1985 wrote: zonnebloem wrote: TR1985 schreef: Interesting. So you don't think Italians are fit to govern themselves? Do you have a problem with nations participating in supranational organisations and the consequences thereof? Yes. I don't like it when decisions are taken away from the people. Perhaps a better question would be... Do you ahve a roblem with a majority forcing their...
The Greek Orthodox Church is urging Christians across Europe to unite in an appeal against a ban on crucifixes in classrooms in Italy. The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg ruled last week that the presence of crucifixes violated a child's right to freedom of religion. Greece's Orthodox Church fears the Italian case will set a precedent. It has called an emergency Holy Synod meeting for next week to devise an action plan....
TR1985 wrote: European Snob wrote: TR1985 wrote: European Snob wrote: TR1985 wrote: I might add that language is one of most important markers of nation. South America being the major exception to this. Switzerland? Belgium? Luxembourg? I qualified it with major. I'm not going to and list every independent nation that shares its language. What makes the three countries I mentioned different from South America is the fact that they have...
George---no agree but it's different in Ireland well in the northern 6 counties which britian has stolen However Catholics go to their own schools---which we built,and no f**ker is going to deprive us of 1200 years of holocaust and genocide--never ever again,but it's not just religion its the whole ethos,history,and our beautiful celtic culture Protestants go to state schools--well good luck to them...ON LAND STOLEN FROM THE NATIVE...
European Snob wrote: The Greek Orthodox Church is urging Christians across Europe to unite in an appeal against a ban on crucifixes in classrooms in Italy. The European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg ruled last week that the presence of crucifixes violated a child's right to freedom of religion. Greece's Orthodox Church fears the Italian case will set a precedent. It has called an emergency Holy Synod meeting for next week to...
Yes, a nation is certainly much more than its language. Switzerland prides itself in the very fact that it has 4 official languages (Schwitze-Deutsch, Francois, Italian, and Romansch..) Last edited on Fri Nov 6th, 2009 08:29 pm by Mazel Schlimazel
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zonnebloem wrote: Voted4Reagan schreef: andytown wrote: Hi Zonne--if we Irish want you Dutch to neb in--we'll give you a call so--End of discussion. Zonne...Feel free to put in your 2cents (or guilders) Andy is in a mood today.. lol That would be a lot of inflation (the old Dutch Guilder had 100 cents or 20 nickels or ten dimes or four quarters). I have to confess I do miss the quarters. Why couldn't the Euro have any...
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