Thread: Earths biggest enemy

Quote: Originally Posted by Captain_Morgan I've been over the emissions, we're spitting into the ocean to make the tide rise. The question is how to control the whole beast or better adapt to it. I've been on my point that we've actually helped cool the earth with pollution. I've linked stuff and explained it, I'm still waiting for your counter information. What have you said that I didn't adress? I...

Quote: Originally Posted by mystery45 *sigh* let us look at actual number rather than bajillions tonnes. In a given year the earth produces anywhere from 95-97% of the total CO2 used in the atmosphere. Man produces 3-5% of that Co2 in a given year. this is according to the IPCC. when they were forced to answer how much of a contribution man made to co2 levels. Out of all the contributors of CO2 the ocean is the most offensive contributing...

sure I'll bite and do your research for you since you wont do your own. The petition that the 31,000 scientists signed, their credentials, their names...need anything else done for you? http://www.petitionproject.org/ no report, just 31,000 scientists unified under the belief that global warming can not be proved to be man made.

Quote: Originally Posted by Mad Mat So how is this not infuriating, equating scientific findings with religion? Quote: Originally Posted by Mad Mat The sulfuric acid example wasn't completely accurate as that one is very easily testable, and climate science is not, sure. Eh, what are you trying to say here? That I am equating your line of reasoning to one of religion by the comparison you made, then you admit that climate science...

Quote: Originally Posted by Mad Mat In that case, what caused the warming in the first place? What makes you think it's not being talked about? This is one of many worst case scenario's (hydrogen sulfide emissions from the oceans another) and those are perhaps the most important reasons for a cap on emissions. What you're saying about adaptation is certainly right, but stuff like what you just mentioned makes that meaningless...

Quote: Originally Posted by Mad Mat "Hey, PapaBoyer, go help pumping man, the ship's sinking." "I'm all for the ship not sinking, but you do the pumping instead, and I'll live. Are you as enthousiastic about it now?" "..." To be fair, the sinking ship analogy falls apart as soon as you add the information that the ship isn't going to sink until after PapaBoyer was going...

Quote: Originally Posted by PapaBoyer On the issue of global warming, I'd prefer to wait a bit longer before we start making rash decisions about halting the economic progress that has contributed to the improvement of many lives. Why must economic progress and ending global warming be mutually exclusive?

Quote: Originally Posted by Mad Mat But even so, why would you think that number applies to the 40's-70's? It's not like emissions of these particles has been constant in time. But the emissions between 50's and 80's would have to be not only constantly increasing but would also have to match the emissions of heat gases 100% to prevent any discernible rise in temperature over 30 years. Excuse me if I find it a little...

Quote: Originally Posted by PapaBoyer Wait a minute. Doesn't this have something to do with "white guilt?" This statement actually makes some sense and isn't inflamatory. What's going on here, where's Tuss. Don't you live in a climate like Alaska now? Northern and Western Europe are actually both warmer than they "should" be, according to how far north they are etc, because the Gulf...

Quote: You know, you're making these numbers sound like they're insignificant, but 3-5% is still an enormous amount. That's like when i was saying that only 1% of the world's water is renewable. You dont even know what that 1% represent exactly, just like i dont know what that 3-5% is. Maybe that 3-5% is a number that tips the scales. I find it silly that you're downplaying it like that. And we're not just...