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Thread: Drafts and insufficient reserve notifications

Started 2 months ago by JethroFDX
Gonna make for some interesting times ahead.
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HoursHore replied 2 months ago
I want to know how you can get insufficient reserves when you try to trade for a different trip on the same day!

Lifizgud replied 2 months ago
It doesn't matter how they get to the "No" answer, does it? Tried to swap an "RA" day and was slapped "Insufficient Reserves" again...and it wasn't anywhere close to Thanksgiving!

drftddgr replied 2 months ago
i have a week of RB followed by vacation followed by a single rb day just after t-giving) in november. i need to move a sunday rb day (my first day of the month). i'm going to try to stick it next to the single day. this should be all in favor of the company and i'm interested to see how well it's gonna work out.

fedupbusdriver replied 2 months ago
So what was their answer?

drftddgr replied 2 months ago
just put it in. waitin' more specifically RB 8th-12th and 27th attempting to move 8 to 13 and 27 to 14 gets rid of a single r day and doesn't create a 1 in 7

Tuck replied 2 months ago
MD-11 FO gets virtually 30 reserve lines out of the VTOs (reserve days not planned when they build the bidpack) and yet it is impossible to drop even one R-day. There are no trips in open time outside of the week of Thanksgiving but "future forecasting" model doesn't allow any drops. This is ridiculous - obviously a slap in the face of 4a2b but the reserve scheduling part of the CBA needs to be...

drftddgr replied 2 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by drftddgr just put it in. waitin' more specifically RB 8th-12th and 27th attempting to move 8 to 13 and 27 to 14 gets rid of a single r day and doesn't create a 1 in 7 the move from 27 to 14 was approved. the move from 8 to 13 denied due to insufficient reserves. now i have 5 ...

AFW_MD11 replied 2 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by drftddgr the move from 27 to 14 was approved. the move from 8 to 13 denied due to insufficient reserves. now i have 5 days on rb, one off, one on the one on the 14th is of very little use to the company and moving the 8th to the 13th won't create a 1 in 7. any ideas who i should call or email to ...

FDX28 replied 2 months ago
Draft call this afternoon for Airbus F/O ASTBY - So Sorry I couldn't make it..

drftddgr replied 2 months ago
Quote: Originally Posted by drftddgr the move from 27 to 14 was approved. the move from 8 to 13 denied due to insufficient reserves. now i have 5 days on rb, one off, one on the one on the 14th is of very little use to the company and moving the 8th to the 13th won't create a 1 in 7. any ideas who i should call or email to ...

 

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Busboy
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user's latest post:
Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-05 09:19:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by FDXLAG Well once again we will have to disagree. I think reducing the amount of reserves you have and then discovering you are short of reserves is definitely similar to 4A2b, which last time I checked we are grieving. Read the R-24 section; are you saying it is not the intent of the contract that R-24 be served away from base if the pilot chooses. It's not similar to 4A2b...It's because of 4A2b! Sec....
FDXLAG
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Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-05 12:16:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Busboy It's not similar to 4A2b...It's because of 4A2b! Sec. 25.M.3.v. is in the contract to specifically allow the company to use R24s to cover for a shortage of non R24s. There is no language that restricts it's use to non 4A2b scenarios. Should there be? In hindsight, yes! I guess we will have to partly agree and disagree. It is not 4A2b. They could exit 4A2b tomorrow and still keep minimum...
drftddgr
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Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-03 13:11:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by drftddgr I was gonna give up on this until I checked my leveling for the 8th and discovered 10 guys on the list for Sunday afternoon. How can 10 F/Os be insufficient for the 727 on a Sunday afternoon? So I made a call and sent an email. I'll post the results when I know what happens. I called my FOA who suggested I email my ACP. Presto, schedule was changed. This was the first interaction I have had with an...
KDENPilot
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user's latest post:
Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-05 20:14:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by pipe I'm not sure where anyone spoke ill of CRS. We're all intelligent enough to understand that they are simply implementing the management interpretation of the contract. In my opinion the present interpretation is being pushed to the limits of a reasonable person's judgment. The reasonable standard is, by the way, the legal standard for things that are not spelled out in black and white. I'm...
pipe
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Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-05 07:34:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by KDENPilot Now yours is a statement I can respect, even if I don't agree with all of it. I don't feel I've been "bent over," that much, so we'll agree to disagree on that one. As far as other employee groups, I'm well aware of the stories of the anti-pilot rallies back when you were negotiating contract 1 (I wasn't here yet.) Not something I would have been happy to...
Gunter
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Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-05 11:57:00)
So here we are. Supposedly preventing or delaying into 2010 What if the company were to be called on this bluff? Could they build every bid pack between 48/60 and 61/73?
FEXFNG
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Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-04 20:13:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Busboy What did we roll over on? The contract says that the company can use R-24's for HSBY, if there are not enough non R-24s. Well, there are not enough non R-24s. You know, one of the dangers of going through the system board process is that the arbitrator might just come up with a resolution that is worse than what we can get the company to settle on. The problem is that they(the company) determine what a...
MD11Fr8Dog
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Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-04 19:56:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Busboy What did we roll over on? The contract says that the company can use R-24's for HSBY, if there are not enough non R-24s. Well, there are not enough non R-24s. Because they intentionally build the bidpacks with not enough reserves, period!
AFW_MD11
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user's latest post:
Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-03 11:10:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by drftddgr .... How can 10 F/Os be insufficient for the 727 on a Sunday afternoon? using the same logic that the company uses to insist that we are still overmanned - that's how P.S. and no one (union) holding them accountable (or maybe not even bothering to keep track of any of it)
MaxKts
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Drafts and insufficient reserve...
Published (2009-11-04 23:39:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by KDENPilot About the response I expected.... to be ridiculed and chastised for not going along with the union "mob" mentality. Wow you guys are real pieces of work. Heaven forbid that someone disagree with you, or dare to be pro-company in any way, shape or form. Being a pilot here has got to be one of the best, easiest jobs in the world, for one of the best companies in the world. I don't...

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