Fox News has a poll out, asking readers whether Hasan committed a terrorst act or just a horrific crime. Over 90% say terrorist act. What do you think?
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2009/...cre-extremi st/
I'd say rather obviously it wasn't Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, which sickeningly is the line I've seen many in the media jump on.
The guy planned this out, he knew what he was going to do, did he do it because he's nuts? yeah, most terrorists are. it was an act of Jihad.
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Originally Posted by cpwill
The guy planned this out, he knew what he was going to do, did he do it because he's nuts? yeah, most terrorists are. it was an act of Jihad.
Honest question CP, considering what you've just said here.
As you know, an abortion doctor was recently killed. The guy who did ...
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Honest question CP, considering what you've just said here.
As you know, an abortion doctor was recently killed. The guy who did the killing, Scott Roeder, said he did it out of religious convictions. He knew what he was going to do. He planned it out. He freely admits committing the act....
Yeah. I wouldn't call it Jihad because that's a uniquely Muslim phenomena, but if you wanted to claim he was on a "Crusade" that would (though not as tightly) fit. Roeder was a terrorist.
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Originally Posted by cpwill
Yeah. I wouldn't call it Jihad because that's a uniquely Muslim phenomena, but if you wanted to claim he was on a "Crusade" that would (though not as tightly) fit. Roeder was a terrorist.
If Hasan committed terrorism than it was simply a terrorist act, there's no need to ...
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Elaborate please.
it's a tactic, this means Hasan's actions would have had to have been meant to bring about political change by instilling fear, obviously this works better when a group is used, solo it doesn't do much
for example, Taliban randomly killing villagers ...
Quote: Originally Posted by Pumpernickel Having just spent part of the morning perusing the inter web tubes, it is growing increasingly obvious to me why so many on the right are so intent on labeling this as an act of terrorism. I've read in 5 or 6 different places this morning variations on the following theme: This is the first domestic terrorist attack since 9/11, it happened under Obama's watch, it's a result of his...
Quote: Originally Posted by NiteGuy In other words, all terrorists may be mass murderers at some point, but not all mass murderers are terrorists. Wrong. Setting fire to bulldozers and logging trucks in a forest is considered terrorism, though there is no intent to physically injure any person. Hasan's killings sent a message to the military- one stating that the US military is not safe, whether it be overseas or at home. And from what...
Quote: Originally Posted by serenity I'm interested by the celebratory aspect that accompanies executions. I get the feeling that a lot of people enjoy the idea of people being killed. However, trained as they are in the complex arts of civilization and morality, they can't comfortably enjoy it without a pretence to moral justification. But I suggest that the justification is secondary, and the killing itself is the thing. I'm...
Quote: Originally Posted by pumpernickel This is the first domestic terrorist attack since 9/11, it happened under Obama's watch, it's a result of his policies. Yes, when we start to see the repetition of statements, and when they arise so quickly, it becomes obvious that people are basking in the ease of regurgitation, untroubled by any attempts at thought. These things are pitch-perfect examples of how propaganda works.
Yeah. I wouldn't call it Jihad because that's a uniquely Muslim phenomena, but if you wanted to claim he was on a "Crusade" that would (though not as tightly) fit. Roeder was a terrorist.
Quote: Originally Posted by pedex it's a tactic, this means Hasan's actions would have had to have been meant to bring about political change by instilling fear , obviously this works better when a group is used, solo it doesn't do much I agree and that is what I believe his goals were. He wanted to instill fear into American troops that they were not safe even on their own bases in their home country. He was angry at the US...
Quote: Originally Posted by serenity I'm interested by the celebratory aspect that accompanies executions. I get the feeling that a lot of people enjoy the idea of people being killed. However, trained as they are in the complex arts of civilization and morality, they can't comfortably enjoy it without a pretence to moral justification. But I suggest that the justification is secondary, and the killing itself is the thing. I'm...
Quote: Originally Posted by pedex it's a tactic, this means Hasan's actions would have had to have been meant to bring about political change by instilling fear, obviously this works better when a group is used, solo it doesn't do much for example, Taliban randomly killing villagers minding their own business and telling them to do X or else, that is terrorism the IRA as a group randomly killing civilians to get the UK govt to...
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