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Thread: Dejection fills Maine ballroom after marriage vote

Started 1 month, 4 weeks ago by cnredd
Dejection fills Maine ballroom after marriage vote Quote: With 87 percent of precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 percent of the vote in a referendum that asked Maine voters whether they wanted to repeal a law allowing same-sex marriage that had passed the Legislature and was signed by Democratic Gov. John Baldacci[/URL] "The institution of ...
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fxashun replied 1 month, 4 weeks ago
It's a "states issue". Just as some states that can keep it out of the ballot box altogether benefits one group, a constitution like this one, and California for that matter, is much more "the people" oriented.

mytmouse57 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
But, what people will say -- "Civil rights should not be put up for a popular vote anyway." Which is true. But, does it hold true with this issue because... is marriage a civil right?

foundit66 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by mytmouse57 But, what people will say -- "civil rights should not be put up for a popular vote anyway." Which is true. But, does it hold true with this issue because... is marriage a civil right? I think the answer is undoubtedly yes... The real heart of this issue is that some ...

saltwn replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by mytmouse57 But, what people will say -- "Civil rights should not be put up for a popular vote anyway." Which is true. But, does it hold true with this issue because... is marriage a civil right? I think a better question is "Is civil rights a civil right? Or not?" Unlike redd, ...

foundit66 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by saltwn I think a better question is "Is civil rights a civil right? Or not?" Unlike redd, I think it is more politically correct for judges to rule in favor of conservatives, especially since all these states prove more people are conservative on this issue. An heroic judge would look at the civil ...

Sulayman replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by foundit66 On the gay issue front, gays have an unquestionable majority on multiple issues like hate crimes legislation, employment / housing protection, and gays serving openly in the military. That majority has existed for MANY years. Yet gays have to push and prod to get these accomplished....

foundit66 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Sulayman In that case maybe these issues aren't quite a popular as you may think regardless of what polls say. Perhaps the mainstream in the privacy of the voting booth and thier own consciences resist movement toward fulfilling the gay agenda. Quite frankly, EVERY poll on these ...

Sulayman replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by foundit66 Quite frankly, EVERY poll on these issues repeats the same conclusion I have already identified... If you believe that how do you explain what happened in California and Texas when the question was actually put to the people?

saltwn replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Sulayman If you believe that how do you explain what happened in California and Texas when the question was actually put to the people? Exactly! And if put to the people in the sixties, Mississippi and South Carolina would have opposed civil rights.

foundit66 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Sulayman If you believe that how do you explain what happened in California and Texas when the question was actually put to the people? Please review what I actually said earlier. I made an explicit list which included civil unions. I never claimed gay marriage had a majority opinion...

 

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Quote: Originally Posted by Sulayman Hate crimes???? Maybe you need to reference the context of the comments? Including Saltwn's original post about how the blacks the courts took a civil rights lead, but with gays it seems that people are trying to insist the courts must let the legislator have sole purview. As I mentioned in my earlier post, the courts recognized the civil right of interracial marriage at a time when there was...
Sulayman
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Quote: Originally Posted by mytmouse57 What it boils down to, is accepting that the legal definition of marriage in our country is simply a social contract between two consenting adults. And as such, there is room in there for gay marriage. But when the gay lobby and their supporters on the political left try to make it into some moral crusade for so-called "equality" -- it becomes much more difficult to take seriously. We...
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Quote: Originally Posted by MrLiberty This is a stupid argument to be constantly having since the Constitution is quite clear in the 14th amendment that we are all equals and have the same rights as one another. (OK f66 you can get up from the floor now! ) If gays wish to marry they should be allowed. However, I think what happens when this subject comes up for discussion is along the lines of tax dollars going to gay partners of federal...
saltwn
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Quote: Originally Posted by Sulayman If you believe that how do you explain what happened in California and Texas when the question was actually put to the people? Exactly! And if put to the people in the sixties, Mississippi and South Carolina would have opposed civil rights.
fxashun
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Dejection fills Maine ballroom...
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It's a "states issue". Just as some states that can keep it out of the ballot box altogether benefits one group, a constitution like this one, and California for that matter, is much more "the people" oriented.
cnredd
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Dejection fills Maine ballroom after marriage vote Quote: With 87 percent of precincts reporting, gay-marriage foes had 53 percent of the vote in a referendum that asked Maine voters whether they wanted to repeal a law allowing same-sex marriage that had passed the Legislature and was signed by Democratic Gov. John Baldacci[/URL] "The institution of marriage has been preserved in Maine and across the nation," said Frank...
MrLiberty
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Published (2009-11-24 12:11:00)
This is a stupid argument to be constantly having since the Constitution is quite clear in the 14th amendment that we are all equals and have the same rights as one another. (OK f66 you can get up from the floor now! ) If gays wish to marry they should be allowed. However, I think what happens when this subject comes up for discussion is along the lines of tax dollars going to gay partners of federal workers and many feel they are being forced...

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