Posts Topics Forums Images
Search videos from message boards Videos Search messages from microblogs Microblogs Search messages from imdb.com Imdb Search messages from yuku.com Yuku Search messages from lefora.com (free forums) Lefora
My account: Login | Sign Up
Loading... 

Thread: Crankshaft timing belt pulley bolt (big pics)

Started 4 months, 2 weeks ago by l4mbch0ps
So, i'm in the process of trying to remove the oil pump to find a leak in there, and i'm stuck where a lot of other people have been before: the crankshaft timing belt pulley bolt. It's been undergoing repeated WD-40 applications all morning, and i've tried every extension bar/breaker bar i have, i've tried jacking on the wrench, i've broken a screw driver off on the flywheel teeth while trying ...
Site: TeamSwift :: Index  TeamSwift :: Index - site profile
Forum: Moderator  Moderator - forum profile
Total authors: 7 authors
Total thread posts: 16 posts
Thread activity: no new posts during last week
Domain info for: teamswift.net

Other posts in this thread:

mxmikie replied 4 months, 1 week ago
_________________ it doesent have to be surrounded by water to be a island and dont forget chuck norris is so gay

l4mbch0ps replied 4 months, 2 weeks ago
Damnit, well now i've gone and done it... I went out and hit it with WD-40 again, made sure the wrench was on square and everything, and gave it another crank. "Pop!" I'm temporarily filled with glee as i envision the ease with which i will be removing this bolt now... To my dismay, the bolt has completely rounded off. With the crank locked with a screwdriver on the flywheel teeth, i can ...

wikityler replied 4 months, 1 week ago
_________________ '91 Pontiac Firefly Mk.2 G10 NA 5spd 383,400Km Available for parts: '86 N/A Chev Sprint Plus w/ 5spd. PM if interested. WTB: sealed beam headlight mounts and fairings from a Mk.2 firefly or metro.

Swifted replied 4 months, 1 week ago
I'm sorry to see that you had so much trouble with the bolt. That build up you noticed on the threads is actually Loctite of some sort, and I've come across many stubborn crank bolts in my time! Honestly, the ONLY way to get them off is to apply generous heat directly to the bolt head with one of those portable propane torches. The heat makes the loctite breakdown and turn to powder, and surely ...

l4mbch0ps replied 4 months, 1 week ago
Great tip for next time, thanks... In the end, if i had had the tools that i was finally able to get it done with, i'm sure it would have come right off. It was a combination of improper tools, and improper usage that caused the stripping. I'm never attacking a serious bolt like that without my breaker bar and impact sockets again! Only problem i'm having now is getting the damn pulley off ...

l4mbch0ps replied 4 months, 1 week ago
So i was able to source a replacement bolt, big thanks to codyb76... Unfortunately, it's shorter than my stock bolt. Now, cody hasn't gotten back to me about what year GT he pulled it off of, but i was just wondering if anyone had run into this difference in crank bolt sizes before. It looks like my long bolt only has loc-tite on it for approximately the same length as the new bolt, which ...

airwerks replied 4 months, 1 week ago
The general rule of thumb for a bolted union is that the thread engagement should be at least equivalent to the bolt diameter. What is that bolt? 12mm? 14mm? So after 12mm or 14mm(respectively) of thread engagement, the rate that the strength increases diminishes quickly. Judging by the loctite marks on your old bolt to ballpark the area of thread engagement, I would just say use it if you are ...

l4mbch0ps replied 4 months, 1 week ago
17mm bolt diameter. The two bolts are 30mm and 35mm in length. Looks like the loctite is on between 18 and 22mm of the long bolt, ending at approximately 31mm... about 1 more thread than is on the other bolt.

wikityler replied 4 months, 1 week ago
You could probe the inside wall of the hole with a piece of wire to see how deep the threads go.

l4mbch0ps replied 4 months, 1 week ago
From everything i can tell so far, the new bolt will work just fine. The threads only appear to be as deep as the loctite was on the old bolt, which is almost exactly as long as the shorter one. The guy who i got the bolt from said it was off a 90 or 91, and mine's a 91, so i'm figuring it's got something to do with whomever had previously worked on this engine. Thanks everyone for the tips... ...

airwerks replied 4 months, 1 week ago
That's a negative on it being a 17mm, that is the head size. The bolt size is a 12mm. I just zipped one out of an 89 GTi engine I have destined for my samurai and it is 12mm, 35mm long, FYI.

 

Top contributing authors

Name
Posts
l4mbch0ps
7
user's latest post:
Crankshaft timing belt pulley...
Published (2009-08-20 16:56:00)
Ah, okay, bolt diameter, not head diameter. I understand. Regardless, i have atleast 18mm of bite on the threads... and it's torqued to spec right now (83ftlb) with the smaller 30mm bolt. Just got the pan back on, and starting in on the rest in a few minutes.
wikityler
2
user's latest post:
Crankshaft timing belt pulley...
Published (2009-08-20 14:18:00)
You could probe the inside wall of the hole with a piece of wire to see how deep the threads go.
Swifted
2
user's latest post:
Crankshaft timing belt pulley...
Published (2009-08-21 18:03:00)
I'm not sure how many of you guys have come across this particular 'issue'. I have had to repair several G13B DOHC engines that were suffering from severe retarded camshaft timing due to the crank pulley bolt being reused after a cam seal replacement. What I have discovered is that the crank gear bolt is about 1/8" shorter than the thread depth in the nose of the crankshaft, and when the bolt is first tightened...
airwerks
2
user's latest post:
Crankshaft timing belt pulley...
Published (2009-08-20 16:40:00)
That's a negative on it being a 17mm, that is the head size. The bolt size is a 12mm. I just zipped one out of an 89 GTi engine I have destined for my samurai and it is 12mm, 35mm long, FYI.
kaboler
1
user's latest post:
Crankshaft timing belt pulley...
Published (2009-11-10 18:21:00)
Someone put thread-lock on that bolt. Comes out with applying heat. Nightmare!
mxmikie
1
user's latest post:
Crankshaft timing belt pulley...
Published (2009-08-16 13:12:00)
_________________ it doesent have to be surrounded by water to be a island and dont forget chuck norris is so gay
FastTracker
1
user's latest post:
Crankshaft timing belt pulley...
Published (2009-11-05 20:56:00)
What I do when I have to take the timing belt pulley bolt out is, take out one of the spark plugs and pour water into the engine, and then put the plug back in. That way the engine hydrolocks and stops it from spinning. Then just use a breaker bar. When your all done take the spark plug out and turn the engine over a cuple of times to let the water out.

Related threads on "TeamSwift :: Index":

Related threads on other sites:

Thread profile page for "Crankshaft timing belt pulley bolt (big pics)" on http://www.teamswift.net. This report page is a snippet summary view from a single thread "Crankshaft timing belt pulley bolt (big pics)", located on the Message Board at http://www.teamswift.net. This thread profile page shows the thread statistics for: Total Authors, Total Thread Posts, and Thread Activity