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Started 2 years, 5 months ago by Jonathan
A friend mentioned the other day that cows' milk can be bad for you for various reasons. I've of course heard of the school of thought that says any milk after infancy is no good, but I didn't realise cows' was so bad specifically compared to say, goats' milk. Anyone know much about this?
I've found this thread quite useful in offering vegan alternatives to milk, but does anyone have ...
{aspiring_to_clarity} replied 2 years, 5 months ago
I don't think any of them are really healthy, but I believe goats' milk is superior to cows' and organic/hormone free of either is better than the regular stuff.
Sorry I don't have any real deep information for you, but I do think that it's kinda weird to drink something intended for infants of another species. Just sayin'. Why is it necessary to have "real milk" as opposed to soy or the ...
That's a very good point - is it necessary to have "real" milk as opposed to dairy-free alternatives?
I've always presumed animal products would have more protein/calcium (my main reasons for drinking the stuff) than the non-animal ones. I've not really looked into the area much - is this not the case? (Unbiased opinions please! ;-))
I need to start looking into almond milk, personally...
but from what I already know, almond milk and soy milk and all those are very high-protein, and taste better than cows' milk.
BTW, here's my favorite ever thing about milk:
Red Dwarf
Holly: "Hopefully they've got a few spots and sods we could use; we've run down on a few supplies..."
Lister: "Like what?"
Holly: "Well, ...
{aspiring_to_clarity} replied 2 years, 5 months ago
I hope I didn't sound too confrontational, but I was just wondering why you felt it was necessary for you to have "real milk" - to understand where you are coming from. If it's nutrition that's your main goal here's a breakdown (from the USDA - I don't know whether you would consider that unbiased though):
Food Search
It looks like you have to do the search yourself. I tried linking ...
Cows milk is designed for baby cows, not humans. If you must have it go for fat free organic. Less antibiotics, less fat, less toxins etc. Soy as an alternative has its own issues. My son is allergic to dairy. His favorite drink is chocolate almond milk, you would never know it was not cow milk. We use a lot of fortified rice milk in cereal and baking. Sometimes he will have a soy based...
I personally drink "bovine juice" and about 16 ounces a day on average.
So far I've seen no real evidence that it's bad for me.
-That being said, how can you tell what a food was intended for?
Like how do you know what you were "intended" to eat?
Who's to say that because I live in Washington State in the US, that I should not eat a banana because it was only intended for ...
{aspiring_to_clarity} replied 2 years, 5 months ago
What The David said...
What I meant was cows' milk was intended for baby cows. How do I know that? Um, isn't it pretty obvious that that's its original purpose? That does not mean we are not allowed to drink it. I never said it was "off limits". But I see no health benefits to drinking it that can't be had elsewhere without the kinda ewww factor. Just a personal opinion.
I was ...
Aspiring to Clarity - no worries, didn't seem confrontational! :-)
I guess I've just always seen the non-dairy alternatives as second best, based on the logic of "if those other ones are so great, why doesn't everyone drink them?"
Silly, I know, but now I'm a bit more informed I'll sort it out!
{aspiring_to_clarity} replied 2 years, 5 months ago
Glad I wasn't being too harsh.
I can see why you would logically come to that conclusion, but we have all been brought up to believe milk is the end all/be all. Most people are used to it and jus assume that what they've always heard is true. There's a lot of money that goes into keeping people believing that...to make sure the product sells.
Glad I wasn't being too harsh. I can see why you would logically come to that conclusion, but we have all been brought up to believe milk is the end all/be all. Most people are used to it and jus assume that what they've always heard is true. There's a lot of money that goes into keeping people believing that...to make sure the product sells.
Aspiring to Clarity - no worries, didn't seem confrontational! :-) I guess I've just always seen the non-dairy alternatives as second best, based on the logic of "if those other ones are so great, why doesn't everyone drink them?" Silly, I know, but now I'm a bit more informed I'll sort it out!
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I've never seen any sound argument against whole cow's milk aside from hormone issues, which can be dealt with via organic milk. Just looking at it as as a nutrient source, it's great but a little calorie heavy so you have to pay attention to quantity.
I need to start looking into almond milk, personally... but from what I already know, almond milk and soy milk and all those are very high-protein, and taste better than cows' milk. BTW, here's my favorite ever thing about milk: Red Dwarf Holly: "Hopefully they've got a few spots and sods we could use; we've run down on a few supplies..." Lister: "Like what?" Holly: "Well,...
Cows milk is designed for baby cows, not humans. If you must have it go for fat free organic. Less antibiotics, less fat, less toxins etc. Soy as an alternative has its own issues. My son is allergic to dairy. His favorite drink is chocolate almond milk, you would never know it was not cow milk. We use a lot of fortified rice milk in cereal and baking. Sometimes he will have a soy based drink but we limit it. We have never explored goats milk...
I personally drink "bovine juice" and about 16 ounces a day on average. So far I've seen no real evidence that it's bad for me. -That being said, how can you tell what a food was intended for? Like how do you know what you were "intended" to eat? Who's to say that because I live in Washington State in the US, that I should not eat a banana because it was only intended for those who live in...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Jonathan A friend mentioned the other day that cows' milk can be bad for you for various reasons. I've of course heard of the school of thought that says any milk after infancy is no good, but I didn't realise cows' was so bad specifically compared to say, goats' milk. Anyone know much about this? I've found this thread quite useful in offering vegan alternatives to milk, but does...
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