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Thread: Con rod Bolts upgrade on 2F

Started 1 month, 1 week ago by Yspen
In a great deal of threads it gets mentioned that the 2F's weak spot is the con rod bolts . When rebuilding it should be upgraded . I did a search but cannot find a mention of what bolt should be fitted and where to get them . I checked ARP bolts website and 2F does not get mentioned . Since I live out in Africa I need the exact part no as importing parts gets to be an issue . Advise...
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fliphkd778 replied 1 month, 1 week ago
I too remember something about upgrading the bolts, can't find it on here though. Try Mark W, I'm sure he would know.

Dynosoar replied 1 month, 1 week ago
If you search you should be able to find it. I remember something about the Supra bolts being very close. Dynosoar

RockDoc replied 1 month, 1 week ago
http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...ain-bolts.h tml FWIW, I asked someone more experienced than myself about upgrading the rod bolts, and came away with reassurance that the stockers should be fine up to 5000 with a properly built engine.... Your thoughts may vary.

Moby replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by RockDoc http://forum.ih8mud.com/40-55-series...ain-bolts.h tml FWIW, I asked someone more experienced than myself about upgrading the rod bolts, and came away with reassurance that the stockers should be fine up to 5000 with a properly built engine.... Your thoughts may vary. No ...

Mark W replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Not sure if Rockdoc got that comment from me, but that matches my experience. 5000 and below the factory bolts are plenty good. Be warned though... a little higher and they DO fail. And when they do, it is ugly. Mark...

RockDoc replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Mark W Not sure if RockDoc got that comment from me Mark... Yup. Incidently, anyone know if the 3FE's computer has a rev limiter built in? Reading up on the Bosch systems it's based on, it seems some of them did.

Cruiserdrew replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Quote: Originally Posted by RockDoc Yup. Incidently, anyone know if the 3FE's computer has a rev limiter built in? Reading up on the Bosch systems it's based on, it seems some of them did. This is a good question, because I think the 1FZ-FE does not. I rev'ed the crap out of it last year at SnT and it ...

RockDoc replied 1 month, 1 week ago
I know I've had mine to 4500 indicated on the tach while watching, and thinks it's been to 4700.... so if the tach is accurate, the ECU doesn't cut fuel at the marked redline anyway

Mark W replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Never had your 3FE in your '62 over 3500? Haw many days does it take you to merge into traffic? I have never encountered a rev limiter on a '62. I have come across a few with tuning problems that keep them from pulling over a certain point. But that is not an intentional thing, but a flaw. If you are running a 3FE, do not worry about upgrading rod bolts. Your piston skirts will fail...

Yspen replied 1 month, 1 week ago
What do you use in the rebuilds you do ? ( specifically aimed at Mark W )

 

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Mark W
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user's latest post:
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Published (2009-11-04 20:29:00)
Trust me... if you count on that... you will quickly collect a few dead 3F engines. Mark...
Yspen
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Con rod Bolts upgrade on 2F -...
Published (2009-11-04 10:57:00)
Marshall , FWIW I have decided not to increase duration and lift in the cam . It is going to a cam grinder that is going to make the torque curve come in a bit later but it will last over a longer rpm band - or that is how he explained it to me . It is a bit of a compromise but how I prefer it . The ARP bolts for a Supra has been ordered ( so my question has been answered ) . That is probably overkill in my case - but it is a rebuild and I...
RockDoc
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Con rod Bolts upgrade on 2F
Published (2009-11-03 15:33:00)
Neat, I'll have to "look" myself if we are out snow-wheeling this winter.
tonkota
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Con rod Bolts upgrade on 2F -...
Published (2009-11-04 12:58:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by pappy Aaron is correct. Directly from the 1988 Model New Car Features, Land Cruiser , page 138 - " 8b. Fuel Cut-off Due to High Engine Speed. To prevent engine over-run, fuel injection is cut if engine speed rises above 5000rpm. Fuel injection is resumed when the engine speed falls below this value." I need to print this and hang it on the refrigerator for the wife to see Thanks!!!!
Moby
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Published (2009-11-03 17:47:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Mark W I have taken 3 different 3FEs in FJ62s past 5000 a few times each. I have busted pistons in two different 3FEs taking them up around 5500. I do not push the 3F engines past 5000 any more. Mark... Dang short rod/stroke ratio. When I looked at (and quickly abadonded) trying to stroke a 3FE I thought that this was a 3FE quirk (some sort of money saving idea to simply destroke the 2F). Then I started noticing...
Trollhole
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Con rod Bolts upgrade on 2F -...
Published (2009-11-04 08:14:00)
From the dyno runs I have done with my 2f with the rv cam the max torque is around 2400 rpms. Max HP is around 3600. After that it fall like a rock at 4200 rpms for hp and around 3600 for torque. Would be interesting to see what a stock cam would look like. I'm betting the numbers would be better. My question is wouldn't it be better to stay within the max torque/hp numbers? I understand for sand that may not be possible.
CruisinFJ60
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Published (2009-11-04 13:46:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by tonkota I need to print this and hang it on the refrigerator for the wife to see Thanks!!!! that fuel cut off could turn to a sex cut off if rubbed in her face you were right about something to much...
fliphkd778
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Con rod Bolts upgrade on 2F
Published (2009-11-03 07:28:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Yspen Impossible to shift gears in the dunes . As soon as you hit the clutch to shift the car comes to a immediate stop and all momentum is lost . You need high revs in the dunes . But in principle I agree with Marshall - I feel uncomfortable above 3500 rpms . I have some experience in sand, but am not a core wheeler so take my advice with a grain of it; why not just run a cam that offers power +/- 500 rpm of 3500?
matt.mcinnes
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Published (2009-11-03 22:11:00)
2" Body lift in an 60 or 80 for a guess would be close.
specialk396
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Con rod Bolts upgrade on 2F
Published (2009-11-02 07:02:00)
MSD makes a nice rev limiter as well

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