http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle6936328. ece
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SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia (UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which their predictions of global warming are based.
It means that other academics are not able to check basic calculations said to show a long-term rise in temperature over the ...
"forced to reveal the loss after an FIA request" usually translates to
"lost it ten minutes after I received the FIA request". (not just climate data, but anything that a tax funded operation refuses to give out and then gets whacked over the head with FIA laws)
Chow, you've taken the same non-news story and regurgitated it up into three or four threads already. There is nothing in those STOLEN emails that interest anyone, except the knobs who print them out of context to help their dirty little agenda forward. The problem is, just like Mann's hockey stick chart, it just hurts the ones pointing fingers. People can see through you posting and re-posting ...
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Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas
Chow, you've taken the same non-news story and regurgitated it up into three or four threads already. There is nothing in those STOLEN emails that interest anyone, except the knobs who print them out of context to help their dirty little agenda forward. The problem is, just like Mann's hockey...
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Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas
Chow, you've taken the same non-news story and regurgitated it up into three or four threads already. There is nothing in those STOLEN emails that interest anyone, except the knobs who print them out of context to help their dirty little agenda forward. The problem is, just like Mann's hockey...
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Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas
Chow, you've taken the same non-news story and regurgitated it up into three or four threads already. There is nothing in those STOLEN emails that interest anyone, except the knobs who print them out of context to help their dirty little agenda forward. The problem is, just like Mann's hockey...
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Originally Posted by mga
deny the lie.
Pay no attention to the kneejerker. Low and behold we have the largest scandal to rock the science community in decades and it interferes with the kneejerkers quest for the United Nations to rule over The United States of America.
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Originally Posted by CaseyForrest
You gotta admit....
What was the goal of throwing these things away? You would think if there really was an interest in convincing people we are warming the planet, any data that supports that would not be thrown away.
Chow needs to put it to music and maybe a ...
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Originally Posted by chowdozer
Pay no attention to the kneejerker. Low and behold we have the largest scandal to rock the science community in decades and it interferes with the kneejerkers quest for the United Nations to rule over The United States of America.
Hahaha! Huge scandal! LOL!
Thanks for making my point!!!
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Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas
If the raw data was important to the peer review, then the science is bad.
The peer review process is supposed to check the calculations in the paper, calculations for which the raw data is REQUIRED !
So yep, BAD science ...
A bad science paper was given poor reports. The system works just as it should.
Has there ever been a university paper that was given bad reports before?
Quote: Originally Posted by CaseyForrest I refuse to admit CO2 is causing warming. You saw the video where a bottle full of CO2 warmed higher from the lamp than the one with lower CO2. The math has been done, measurements complete. What other proof do you need? You said it yourself, science or proof is irrelevent, you will not admit it no matter what (see above quote). Because you're not looking for science or proof, you're just...
Quote: Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas Fish are natural, how can they harm a lake? Silly Michiganer. Mercury, CO2, Methane, crude oil.... Those are natural. How can they harm the environment?
Quote: Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas You saw the video where a bottle full of CO2 warmed higher from the lamp than the one with lower CO2. Relevance please. Our atmosphere isn't "full of CO2", nor is it contained in a glass bottle. Then again, the sun isn't a lamp. Not a valid experiment to show anything about GW. It's a great experiment to show how CO2 can trap heat in a sealed environment, however. Quote:...
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Quote: Originally Posted by wavefreak Me on task? I was commenting on how we filter our information. Your the one that brought in some weak analogy about pennies. Which is a good example of your filter at work. You want to crush MMGW so your "kill the liberal" rhetoric kicks in at the slightest provocation. If "killing the liberal" rhetoric" includes getting rid of the purely fabricated 'MMGW' agenda,...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas The Asian Carp are not yet known to be in the Great Lakes, within about 100 feet at one point, but not in it. There is a man made shipping route connecting Lake Michigan to the Mississippi. The carp are in the Mississippi and that is the problem. Should the man made shipping route be closed? That would cost money. What is intentional is not spending enough money to keep the sewage out. Big cities...
Quote: Originally Posted by Kneejerk Bombas In my reading here I was starting to see some positive points of Conservatism, but was still confused by their strict adherence to things that were not working. Casey has opened my eyes to the fact that it can not work. If working means denying things like mercury pollution and raw sewage as problems, there must be fundamental flaws with the underlying ideology. No sane person would accept the ideal...
Quote: Originally Posted by J.W Younger but what poor jeff does'nt know, and kneejerk could tighten him up on this , is its mmgw thats causing this cooling trend. You and I get the joke. Sadly KJB now thinks that you are coming around to his side.
RT @ SouthernCharm : Climate change data dumped... RT @ SouthernCharm : Climate change data dumped http://bit.ly/6Qe1jI What kind of serious scientists would throw away their data? CREDIBLE
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Climate change data dumped-SCIENTISTS at the University... Climate change data dumped-SCIENTISTS at the University of East Anglia
(UEA) have admitted throwing away much of the raw temperature data on which
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