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Thread: Children under 15 can be withdrawn from sex education

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by Friends of Alfred
Guardian article here Quote: From September 2011, the law will change to make it compulsory for all young people in England to learn about sex between the ages of 15 and 16, even if their parents object Agreed, although I think 15 is too old to have never been introduced to these things. One would hope that sensible parents would have ...
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gopher replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Friends of Alfred Guardian article here Or in other words, bigoted teachers will continue to be allowed to hide behind the veil of Religion. As long as they teach it as being "Against the tenets of our religion" I fail to see the problem. If you are attending a faith school I ...

AnglRdr replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher If you are attending a faith school I would hope you were a follower of that religion. Is that a requirement for parochial schools in England? Or anywhere?

Friends of Alfred replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by gopher As long as they teach it as being "Against the tenets of our religion" I fail to see the problem. If you are attending a faith school I would hope you were a follower of that religion. I don't actually see any justification whatsoever for teaching children that being gay is ...

DawnStorm replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by AnglRdr Is that a requirement for parochial schools in England? Or anywhere? AFAIK no. Around here, many non-Catholic kids go to Catholic schools. A former roommate of mine taught music in various Catholic schools in the area and I was surprised when she told me that not all of her ...

Friends of Alfred replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by AnglRdr Is that a requirement for parochial schools in England? Or anywhere? It's not a requirement, but faith schools can give priority to children from families who sahre them same faith. If the school is under-subscribed, they are obliged to accept applications from children of ...

Canuckistan replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I don't understand why some people are often so quick to give religious bigotry a pass. It's like we shouldn't question it because they believe it.

Broken Sword replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Friends of Alfred I don't actually see any justification whatsoever for teaching children that being gay is immoral, merely because the school is associated with a particular church. It gets back to the argument that it's OK to be a bigot as longs it is done in the Name Of The Lord, an argument that I ...

BringTheNoise replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: I think that legislating what a religious school can and can't teach about morality is going way over the line. These are state-funded schools. It is entirely appropriate that the state have a say in their curriculum. And telling students in a sexual health class that being gay or whatever else is wrong is not appropriate.

Broken Sword replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by BringTheNoise These are state-funded schools. Oh. Now I'm confused in the other direction. Your government funds schools that are run by churches and can explicitly favor children of a certain religion in their admissions?

Friends of Alfred replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Quote: Originally Posted by Broken Sword Apparently, you want the government to legislate your version of morality, but not theirs. I think that legislating what a religious school can and can't teach about morality is going way over the line. Nope. I want the government to stop giving a pass to certain ...

 

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Broken Sword
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnglRdr FWIW, you are wrong, Broken Sword, about it being "over the line" for the British government to legislate what goes on in parochial schools there. Perhaps it would be helpful if you acknowledge your error regarding this? I've noted multiple times now that I was wrong about that. FoA seemed to be clear on that as far back as post #13. I don't think that's really the issue here. If...
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Quote: Originally Posted by Broken Sword I see...when you make a mistake and misinterpret my post, it's my fault.. I don't know if I ever assigned blame, actually. Quote: I don't think that's really the issue here. For the record, I've tried as much as possible to stick to the subject at hand. The only person who's tried to make this into a wider debate about, say, my posting style (which is something, as you can...
AnglRdr
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My mistake; the waffling confused me.
Friends of Alfred
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From the Daily Mash Quote: PARENTS' rights to withdraw their children from sex education will stop once the youngsters are already experienced in Dutch steamboating and the reverse clambake, the Government said last night. However, sex education classes in faith schools will have to reflect religious teachings, with Catholic lessons comprising of a huge diagram of a vagina entitled 'The Devil’s Sin Cavern'. Other religious...
BringTheNoise
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Quote: The only cases in which I see that appropriate are when the government is funding the teaching... So, in this case then.
Chloe
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Quote: Originally Posted by Broken Sword On these boards, I honestly don't think that being a nontaxpayer or a taxpayer has a bit to do with how much your opinion is worth. On these boards in general? No. In threads regarding tax policy? I think so. In most cases, the issue wouldn't come up, though. Quote: I have never, ever seen an American on snopes say that their opinion about American policy was worth more than the opinion of a...
Canuckistan
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Quote: Originally Posted by Roadie Yikes! I must admit that I was under the impression that church-run schools would not be funded by the government; it was interesting to learn that they are across the pond. Ontario's Catholic school boards are also government-funded. I don't think they have the same ability to reject based on religion, but I could be wrong about that.
Roadie
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Quote: Originally Posted by Dara bhur gCara You should probably investigate whether or not religious schools in the United Kingdom receive state funding before you make such sweeping judgements over whether or not a) the government is "way over the line" in legislating what they can and can't teach, or b) a UK taxpayer is "way over the line" in having an opinion about what they can teach. You wouldn't feel so...
DawnStorm
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Quote: Originally Posted by AnglRdr Is that a requirement for parochial schools in England? Or anywhere? AFAIK no. Around here, many non-Catholic kids go to Catholic schools. A former roommate of mine taught music in various Catholic schools in the area and I was surprised when she told me that not all of her students were Catholic.
gopher
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Published (2009-11-05 15:37:00)
Quote: Originally Posted by Friends of Alfred Guardian article here Or in other words, bigoted teachers will continue to be allowed to hide behind the veil of Religion. As long as they teach it as being "Against the tenets of our religion" I fail to see the problem. If you are attending a faith school I would hope you were a follower of that religion.

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