I'm thinking of planting this tree for two reasons: privacy and the fact that it's evergreen.
It will be planted close to my house in an area confined by concrete walkway and driveway, and will need to be trimmed into a hedge form for this reason (yeah, I know, I lose out on the natural form).
I have some concerns. I will have to trim it to keep it to size, not a problem as far as I can see...
From that list, either the straight species or emerald fountain which might work depending how tall you need it. EF would be expensive up front, but less trimming later to keep it in bounds. Any reason for not considering the more columnar forms of arborvitae or juniper?
As lacyvail stated, Canada hemlocks are in trouble. Unless you're prepared for costly annual treatments, you may want to look at some of the Asian varieties. I tend to prefer native species, but when it comes to natives that are in deep trouble, well, they may not be your best bet for this kind of investment.
i cant believe those prices .... if you cant do better than those.. you arent trying very hard ... link to ACS database .. find annual growth rates ... and predict how fast you can grow from small size .... 'new gold' is awesome in spring .. all are fully z5 .... no bug problems for me.. YET ... lol ... 6 to 12 inches per year ... which means to me.. a one footer can be about 6 feet tall ...
Ken, that is the market in SE WI. I see those prices are pulled from Minors Nursery...they are actually one of the better priced nurseries in the area. Thats not to say they might be priced high on those particular culivars. As Ginkgonut mentioned, why not go with an Upright Juniper? Here is a link that might be useful: Minors Price List
that wasnt my point ... value is in the eyes of the beholder.. or his checkbook ... if you start smaller.. it takes longer until pruning.. most stuff transplants better smaller ... and the job can be done for a fraction of the cost .... like pennies on the dollars quoted .... unless size is important ... lol why doesnt the OP think about de groots spire.. for tall.. thin.. never ...
Yeah, I agree prices are steep. However, the reason I'd be willing to pay the price (and not wait for growth) is the NEIGHBOR FROM HELL. Lol. Junipers aren't going to be wide enough, I'm looking for something that will "fan" out somewhat to fill in the gaps. For that reason, upright Junipers won't work, nor will Arborvitae. How do the asian varieties differ? Are they on the list I gave...
I KNOW they are supposed to be in trouble. I have them although I did not plant them. And although I have seen an occasional woolly adelphid on them, they look essentially very healthy. I did treat maybe once last season for the few adelphids I saw. I did some radical pruning of lower and overlapping branches (thereby increasing air circulation though the 'grove'). Who knows what the future ...
kimcoco what are the dimensions you're looking for and how close is "close to the house"? As for the prices, Ken is right. I bought a "Moon Frost" from Minor's in a 4" pot three years ago for under $10 and it's now about 18" (they want $64 for an 18 incher). They still sell the small pots each Spring. tj
TJ - that picture is too funny. I WISH I had a hedge that big. LOL. Seriously, what size should I plan on getting in order to maintain it? Ideally, maybe an eight foot height is what I'm shooting for. In other words, a 6 foot planting is ideal, then maintain it to an eight foot height, or I suppose I'm looking at the width as well? Thanks for the info on the Garden Centers. I'll have to price match in spring. Comparing the 2009...
"Seriously, what size should I plan on getting in order to maintain it? " If it were me, probably 2 or 3 feet, but I know you have a need to fill fast. To get the fullest plant at 8 feet, I'd say a 3 or 4 footer at most. But I wouldn't give up on a Thuja yet. I know. A Tsuga junkie saying that , but a Thuja might be less trimming work later. tj
that wasnt my point ... value is in the eyes of the beholder.. or his checkbook ... if you start smaller.. it takes longer until pruning.. most stuff transplants better smaller ... and the job can be done for a fraction of the cost .... like pennies on the dollars quoted .... unless size is important ... lol why doesnt the OP think about de groots spire.. for tall.. thin.. never need pruning plants .... ken Here is a link that might be useful:...
From that list, either the straight species or emerald fountain which might work depending how tall you need it. EF would be expensive up front, but less trimming later to keep it in bounds. Any reason for not considering the more columnar forms of arborvitae or juniper?
As lacyvail stated, Canada hemlocks are in trouble. Unless you're prepared for costly annual treatments, you may want to look at some of the Asian varieties. I tend to prefer native species, but when it comes to natives that are in deep trouble, well, they may not be your best bet for this kind of investment.
Ken, that is the market in SE WI. I see those prices are pulled from Minors Nursery...they are actually one of the better priced nurseries in the area. Thats not to say they might be priced high on those particular culivars. As Ginkgonut mentioned, why not go with an Upright Juniper? Here is a link that might be useful: Minors Price List
I am spraying (heavy drenching) my hemlocks with horticultural oil.....after over a year the woolly adelgid keeps on going and is still there - going strong with lots of white stuff all over the place. What to do as apparently the trees wont last 3 years with this cr@p on them.
As for the wooly adelgid--Wisconsin is a long way from any area that is now infected. Unless someone carries some of these bugs to your area, it should be many, many years before it gets up and out there. By that time there may be some natural control established. If not there are measures to protect individual trees. Go ahead and plant them. Really, really wonderful trees!! --Spruce
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