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Thread: CIBC Investor's Edge wants a personal guarantee for a cash account?

Started 1 month, 2 weeks ago by titicaca
I wanted to open an online brokerage account for my incorporated business to invest some cash and CIBC Investor's Edge asked me to sign a personal guarantee for a cash account. I bank with CIBC and have a good standing with them. Their concern was the potential liability during transaction settlements. A personal guarantee removes the main...
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titicaca replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I’m not having any luck with RBC Direct Investing. While attempting to open a brokerage account with RBC Direct Investing for my incorporated small-business they told me my Articles of Incorporation are too short: “Send in more pages please”. Apparently four pages are deemed to be not long enough. The guy on the phone said they were also...

gee replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
I was in the same boat ... I have a small incorporated consulting company I wanted to create a second income stream in from investing. I talked with Scotia ITrade and had no problem opening up accounts with them ... I have a cash optimizer account and a margin account.

leslie replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
You have to understand their POV. They do NOT want to deal with corps for the same reason you WANT to incorporate. I don't know about trading accounts, but ALL banks will ask business owners to sign away their personal assets for bank services like lines-of-credit. Whether you comply, and whether they insist is a game....

titicaca replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
leslie All that I’m asking for is a cash account for trading. I am willing to give them a large chunk of assets to hold, not the other way around. I should be the one worried about getting it back. This makes me think they are not very intelligent and have turned into monolithic bureaucracies. Fortunately, for me, however annoying this ...

eliostar replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
It seems odd if it's a cash account, try one of the smaller firms.

optsyeagle replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
It's possible that this is a regulatory issue. I forget the terms for it, but they have serious rules about anyone that might buy a stock and not come up with the cash upon settlement. They think of it more as an illegal trade then they do about it being a bad debt. Perhaps this is one of the rules the OSC/IIROC puts on the brokerages to ...

titicaca replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
optsyeagle - I don’t think that would be a regulatory requirement. I’m filling out the application for Qtrade Investor and it explicitly requires “Guarantee of Account” for margin accounts only. RBC Direct Investing had the same requirement for margin accounts only and they did not ask me for a guarantee when I applied for a cash account, ...

titicaca replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
This begs the question: Is there a broker that doesn’t need a personal guarantee for corporate margin account?

gee replied 1 month, 2 weeks ago
This begs the question: Is there a broker that doesn’t need a personal guarantee for corporate margin account? Don't you read the reply to your posts? I already said to you in a previous most i use iTrade for my corporate account and had no problem setting up a Margin account with out signing any personal guarantee?...

titicaca replied 1 month, 1 week ago
Gee, Good for you for having a non-personal margin account without a personal guarantee. I enquired with Scotia iTRADE and they wanted an Account Guarantee for non-personal accounts. I specifically asked why they needed one for a cash account and the response implied what leslie said about them not wanting to risk dealing with incorporated ...

 

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CIBC Investor's Edge wants...
Published (2009-11-19 16:53:00)
Gee, Good for you for having a non-personal margin account without a personal guarantee. I enquired with Scotia iTRADE and they wanted an Account Guarantee for non-personal accounts. I specifically asked why they needed one for a cash account and the response implied what leslie said about them not wanting to risk dealing with incorporated entities making whole on the liabilities. Their position, to me, makes no sense. The good news is RBC...
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Published (2009-11-14 11:14:00)
This begs the question: Is there a broker that doesn’t need a personal guarantee for corporate margin account? Don't you read the reply to your posts? I already said to you in a previous most i use iTrade for my corporate account and had no problem setting up a Margin account with out signing any personal guarantee?
leslie
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CIBC Investor's Edge wants...
Published (2009-11-11 12:46:00)
You have to understand their POV. They do NOT want to deal with corps for the same reason you WANT to incorporate. I don't know about trading accounts, but ALL banks will ask business owners to sign away their personal assets for bank services like lines-of-credit. Whether you comply, and whether they insist is a game.
eliostar
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CIBC Investor's Edge wants...
Published (2009-11-12 08:22:00)
It seems odd if it's a cash account, try one of the smaller firms.
optsyeagle
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CIBC Investor's Edge wants...
Published (2009-11-12 15:25:00)
It's possible that this is a regulatory issue. I forget the terms for it, but they have serious rules about anyone that might buy a stock and not come up with the cash upon settlement. They think of it more as an illegal trade then they do about it being a bad debt. Perhaps this is one of the rules the OSC/IIROC puts on the brokerages to reduce this from occuring. Just a guess on my part. Thought I would mention it.

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