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Thread: Buying something to avoid jail: bribery? Forcing someone to buy or go to jail: extortion?


Started 4 months ago by begin_within
Please correct me if I am misunderstanding this. As I see it, Congress is now preparing to encourage Americans to bribe, by spending money to avoid jail time. At the same time Congress is threatening punishment (fines and jail time) if you don't buy it. Isn't that extortion? I'm all in favor of health care reform, in fact I support single payer at the federal level. But ...
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emulatorloo replied 4 months ago
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 04:50 PM by emulatorloo Worth reading if you haven't seen it: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/20 09/se... / POLITIFACT: Jail time for people who don't buy health insurance? By Louis Jacobson Published on Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 at 5:47 p.m. Will you go to jail if you don't get health insurance? Critics say it's a possibility, but we ...

TexasObserver replied 4 months ago
They take you to the hospital, unconscious. They discover you have failed to get insurance, as required. You awaken to find you're handcuffed to the bed, and there's an insurance agent there to sell the policy that will buy your freedom. Crazy? Wait five years and see.

Cirque du So-What replied 4 months ago
Time to give the 'Dracula stories' a rest. They will send the feeble-minded into a tizzy, and it'll be hell getting them to come out from under the bed. They can take their laptops under there, yunno, where they'll persist in scaring even more folks.

Taitertots replied 4 months ago
I have to pay more for insurance than my car is worth. I bought a $200 Cavalier when I got out of high school. I paid 10x more than that to have it "insured" for a year. Insured is in quotations because while they may call it insurance, I got absolutely no coverage. Welcome to the face of American insurance with no coverage.


greennina replied 4 months ago
It's their form of a bail-out. We were sold-out.

begin_within replied 4 months ago
I'm paying USAA something like $880 for insurance every year, and its blue book value is only like $2,500. Nuts. And I pay Blue Shield over $2,000 a year in premiums for what I think is bare-bones insurance.

ProdigalJunkMail replied 4 months ago
“H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax.” “If the government determines that the taxpayer’s unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the ...

ProdigalJunkMail replied 4 months ago
you are not insuring just your car... sP

TexasObserver replied 4 months ago
Educate yourself. There's still time.

 

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ProdigalJunkMail
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it sounds like you don't really understand how auto-insurance works... sP
MajorChode
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Now do you have anything that actually involves facts and reason, or is hyperbole and bullshit all you got?
begin_within
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every 6 months, and I assumed that was because my car is quite a bit less valuable now. I thought they would give me a bigger break because I have never filed a claim.
TexasObserver
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Taitertots
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More than likely not.
TheGunslinger
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But, HR 3962 makes the IRS, in effect, a collection agency for the private, for-profit insurance companies. Grand scheme, eh?
emulatorloo
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Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 04:50 PM by emulatorloo Worth reading if you haven't seen it: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/se... / POLITIFACT: Jail time for people who don't buy health insurance? By Louis Jacobson Published on Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 at 5:47 p.m. Will you go to jail if you don't get health insurance? Critics say it's a possibility, but we find the fears to be overblown. A subsidiary...
Cirque du So-What
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Time to give the 'Dracula stories' a rest. They will send the feeble-minded into a tizzy, and it'll be hell getting them to come out from under the bed. They can take their laptops under there, yunno, where they'll persist in scaring even more folks.
Fire1
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greennina
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It's their form of a bail-out. We were sold-out.

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