Thread: Buy Health Care or Be Jailed

Originally Posted by HughRuss qft Haha, I know I know, we talked about this. But I had to have a little fun before I stopped entirely. While it may be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel, at the same time it gets rather boring (and infuriating) after a while because it's so easy.

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon Thus I say, I would not respect the passage of any bill that mandates I part with my property. It would be an infringement upon my liberties. Then you do not respect taxes.

Originally Posted by CuriousMoon This was stopped by The National Emergencies Act of 1976 That said, President Obama decared a state of emergency for H1N1 in 2009 Thus changes the rights of Habeas Corpus and many provisions of statutory law We are under a state of emergency, but it doesn't stem all the way from 1933. then you stated the following: That's not for me, I am a citizen of Washington State and a U.S. national. I have...

Originally Posted by HughRuss Does not The Zion count? Touche my good sir

Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman I was watching Larry King a few weeks ago and he had on as guests Michael Moore and Ron Paul (not at the same time though, unfortunately). Moore complained in his portion of the show about capitalism and how it has corrupted the government, health care, the world, etc, and allowed special interests to reign. Paul later countered, saying that he actually agrees with Moore's take on how special...

Originally Posted by DosEquis I am not forcing my moral code on others. The people who check in to the emergency room without a way to pay for it - the hospitals that admit them for treatment - are forcing their moral code and their fiscal losses upon the rest of us. No, the person who says they have to treat them are. And thus far, that person has been you. Originally Posted by DosEquis The other option is for them to turn people away.... Of...

Originally Posted by Mosheh Thezion since, the government operates under a never ending state of emergency, 1933, the Constitution is suspended as law... and so.. you have no rights. This was stopped by The National Emergencies Act of 1976 That said, President Obama decared a state of emergency for H1N1 in 2009 Thus changes the rights of Habeas Corpus and many provisions of statutory law We are under a state of emergency, but it doesn't...

Originally Posted by The Esteemed Gentleman Yeah, I still can't wrap my head around your position on it; I really can't. it is pretty basic, where the Supreme Court derive its power from? It's own rulings. That is bullshit.

Originally Posted by Scrum My state requires me to carry auto insurance. I don't see how this is much different. I still don't like this. I coudn't afford insurance before, that's why I didn't buy it. This bill isn't going to lower costs so I'm going to be screwed. States have different rights. The constitutionality of this bill is highly questionable. You're going to be double screwed when they make it...

Originally Posted by DosEquis We dont have an obligation to simply help people. If someone has a broken leg or was shot, we have a moral obligation for taking care of those people instead of simply letting some of them die. Moral Obligation? You can't dictate what moral obligations we have. Morally, I choose to treat others as I would expect them treat me. I am not obligated to follow this choice. While it may be my rule of thumb, it is...